Immelman/diveloop help

Hey, question... is there any decent realistic way to make an immelman or dive loop using H:sak? If there is i would love to know how. i know there are formulas like cornu and bowfu and what not, but i can't find any links to those formulas, so either a link to those, or help with h:sak would be lovely. thanks folks!

Well I've never made one fully in H:SAK, but i have made it using the H:SAK and then rotating the element in the Purgatorium. I think thats the easiest way to do it.

You can make one. It doesnt always turn out perfectly, you'd need to be very experienced to get it looking right. I've done one that is nearly right. Have a go.

Try making a 180* pullout with HSAK, but don't forget to chnage the zerrz to a higher number, like 20 (experiment, i'm not rly sure). Thank rotate it in the purg, so it's vertical. Thank make a pullout with Hsak and rotate it with purg, so it's a little slanted...

i actually did all this and figured it out a couple days ago after this was posted. the trick is keeping the radius from the entrance to the pullout exactly the same, with no lead ins or lead outs... its pretty sweet now, but thanks anyways guys. btw how does a b&m sit down with a dive loop straight into a loop screw sound? lol

loop screw? Ya mean like a pulled-appart loop? Doesn't really sound B&M...

doesn't need to be exactly like a b&m... I'm so sick of people saying that... c'mon people be original for once!!!

you can be orignal and realistic at the same time ya know.

indeed, but thinking outside the box is much better than following any sort of guideline imo.

ive seen it, and its pretty bad ass.
if he keeps at this ride, id be looking for it if i were you guys.

I'm really wondering how you made a complete Immelman from H:SAK.
Please explain how you did this cause I'm lost trying to make one.

Think of the exit of the immelman as a stretched out corkscrew and the entrance as just a half loop and it should come to you. Or you can use slope to modify a normalish hill type section so that it turns a little and stitch in on to the half loop part like I did in my Bombs Over Baghdad ride.

The Stitching to me is way easier, thanks for your help.