Black Mamba

this is probaly gonna be the next Nemesis only better. . .

http://www.onride.de/viewtopic.php?t=20 ... t=256&7281

Look at *that* banking, and then imagine the forces...

[hyyyper]

w00t, i made up my mind, phantaland is on my 2006 season list

Lmao.. They are really using every square meter on this one! So many turns! Amazing

[Dirk_Ermen]

yeah, that's the 5g turn B&m didn't wanted to add! [pshades]

Originally posted by Dirk_Ermen

yeah, that's the 5g turn B&m didn't wanted to add! [pshades]

Looking at the banking angles it seems to have way less than 5G, probably even only 2.7 to 3.5 Gs. But since the existing pics are not exact enough to produce a better estimation, we'll hope and see...

and no one realy knows what speed the train will be going through that helix. If its fast, then you got some high g's. If its slower, than prolly around 2-3. We just have to wait and see. And i think the immelwhateveryouwannacallit would be an awesome addition to an NL coaster. Lets see someone other than me make one. I think i have the basic shape right, but mine sucks lol. Heres a pic.
http://nldc.interfix.net/i9792

Originally posted by Jakizle

and no one realy knows what speed the train will be going through that helix. If its fast, then you got some high g's. If its slower, than prolly around 2-3. We just have to wait and see.

No we don't. You do not have to know any speed for this kind of estimation. Banking angles (in this helix' case a relation of approx 2.5:1) is enough to find the basic relation of forces. After all the downward force is 1.0G always (at least on this planet...) [8D]

more hell(ix) views just became avail.: http://tinyurl.com/9xwax

[Dirk_Ermen]

That really looks like 75-80 degrees banked.[:)] Without calculating stuff i guess it's like at least 4g [pshades]

Gotta remember that downward or upward angle screw with the banking depending upon speed as well.

Who knows, maybe they are going with alot of lats here

and yet some more: http://phantasialand-bruehl.de/park/bil ... jan06.html

So has anyone really thought how the Z-G-roll might look?

Pretty standard, I think it will be a bit less heartlined more along the lines of BTR, top gun, and raptor. Instead of overheatlined like the new Silver Bullet and Patriot ones.

Originally posted by Real

BTW theres proof the Zero G will be completely normal. Its not going to have much turn too it at all judging by this picture:

You can see that the entrance and exit are lined up pretty close. We may see some movement in it but nothing we havent seen before. I still think it will rotate in the opposite direction but I am probably wrong. However, that one support seems to prove my theory unless its for another part of the ride but it looks a little high for that.

And Red said the rotation would be too fast...Bah I tell you!

Looking at the latest pics (placed footers and one support for the Zero-G) there *might* be a tiny chance that you proove right with your "reversed rotation" thesis.

BTW: i still don't think this to be possible within all these tight clearings, but i must admit it would be sensational to have such a weird rotational behaviour (including some quite high forces then too...)

It's definitely very exciting to estimate, even if so much of the track & surroundigs are already there, and yet no truly reliable information about that Zero-G can be concluded from all that, as of today. [:D]

redunzelizer

Hel(l)ix done.

Z-G done.

http://www.onride.de/viewtopic.php?t=20 ... t=327&7281

Post done.

This looks so cool, so great, so........ nemesis [;)] I just love it how it dips under bridges etc, so nemesis like, i cant wait till you guys ride it, nothing beats the feeling of disorientation that it gives you. Its insane.

The zero G doesnt look much different though?

[gouldy]

I am actually sitting here creaming myself

wow, so much track, so little space!

Originally posted by Fornication Nation

wow, so much track, so little space!

Thats Phantasialand, this is the Biggest Place ever used for ONE single attraktion in this Park.

Originally posted by redunzelizer

Originally posted by Real

BTW theres proof the Zero G will be completely normal. Its not going to have much turn too it at all judging by this picture:

You can see that the entrance and exit are lined up pretty close. We may see some movement in it but nothing we havent seen before. I still think it will rotate in the opposite direction but I am probably wrong. However, that one support seems to prove my theory unless its for another part of the ride but it looks a little high for that.

And Red said the rotation would be too fast...Bah I tell you!

Looking at the latest pics (placed footers and one support for the Zero-G) there *might* be a tiny chance that you proove right with your "reversed rotation" thesis.

BTW: i still don't think this to be possible within all these tight clearings, but i must admit it would be sensational to have such a weird rotational behaviour (including some quite high forces then too...)

It's definitely very exciting to estimate, even if so much of the track & surroundigs are already there, and yet no truly reliable information about that Zero-G can be concluded from all that, as of today. [:D]

redunzelizer

LOL I just realized when I posted that that I had viewed the G the right way but described it the wrong way. As in, I kept twisting the track the wrong direction in my mind but it kept ending up the same - as it is now.

Also shows that that "turn" we thought is just mearing the heartlining. Im betting that its a pretty straight line judging from those "in-line" pictures.


Anyone else notice these REALLY flat Zero-G's?

First Silver Bullet. Then Hydra. Then Patriot. Now Mamba (in order they were assembled).

Im loving them. Hydras was the BEST Zero G I have ever felt - PURE floater.

Pretty cool looking!

in the drawings of the ride it shows pathways throughout the ride but this thing is so cramped where do they go?!?!?

Brand new with B&M inverter designs:

Authentic Vekoma SLC ride experience included:
http://www.onride.de/viewtopic.php?t=20 ... t=356&7281

Also: wingover Nr.1 assembly footage http://tinyurl.com/b9uyo

[hyyyper]

Originally posted by redunzelizer


Authentic Vekoma SLC ride experience included:
http://www.onride.de/viewtopic.php?t=20 ... t=356&7281

i don't get it?