continuation of the gay thing

exactly, people have to accept me for being short. i cant change that. damn.

yeah, people should just respect people for who they are. besides, it's not like homosexuality is a visible difference. by disrespecting gays and lesbians by saying that homosexuality is wrong, you're offending people who may consider themselves straight but on the inside are struggling with their sexuality. you never know who's gay and who isnt so to avoid offending anyone, you should just simply be nice. and through expierence, i can honestly tell you that almost none of us gay people are "flamers." most gays and lesbians act, talk, and behave like everyone else. so before you open your mouth, remember that nearly 1 in every 5 people in this world is NOT heterosexual... weather you know it or not.

[coolbeans326]

Originally posted by coaster992001

well, the leviticus one is actually "thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with wommankind. it is abomination." and that's the most used homophobic verse in the bible. however, if you understand hebrew thoughts of the time, it's actually saying no sex for anyone. it can also be translated into "dont have sex in a womans bed" but you can only get that translation out of the hebrew text. and i dont understand the "your choice" comment..... (?)




oh... if you dont like talking about this stuff, then stop reading the post [;)]

also, in number 2, it talks about acts of LUST. homosexuality doesnt have anything to do with lust, it's all about love.

I just love how you rehashed the bible's word's to fit your life style. What you just did made absolutely no sense. And, hebrew time allows sex in the context of mariage, as God intended it to be, thus making your interpretation wrong, and TConwell's right. But I don't think this argument is going to get anywhere, for I do not know how you could just automatically just become strait with the snap of your fingers. I don't know man, I dunno, and I guess we won't know till the end comes.

"hebrew time allows sex in the context of marraige"

...and how does this fit the conversation? we're not talking about sex..... or at least i'm not (?)

[coolbeans326]

it's actually saying no sex for anyone

that's what you said. And I was saying how the passage was talking about what TC said.
No, where talking bout the gay thing, I was just showing you how your interprentation was wrong.

that'as not my interpretation, but that is one of them. it may be right, it may be wrong. but just like the other dozens of ways to read that statement, it's no more wrong or right than the others untill you ask the author what he was trying to write. and this little quarrel should be noted as a perfect example as to why the bible is invalid in almost any argument because of all the millions (yes, millions) of ways that it can be interpreted. it can be used for backing litterally every purpose, idea or way of life you can imagine. and it can also be used to show that those same ideas are wrong. making itself a walking contradiction. and that's exactly why bibles need feet.

Folks ... you gotta give it up. Can you not see that coaster992001 is only going to continue spinning your wheels? Talk about a waste of key strokes ... not to mention someone who does not want to be changed ... geesh. It is obvious words are twisted to fit his life and that is fine as it is his choice -- he has been told the truth.

Let it go folks ... this thread SHOULD NOT be turned into a referrendum of homosexuality, nor a forum to inflict lifestyle changes on anyone ... you all have spoken your peace ... now act like you have some maturity and let it go (i.e. -- shut up). Geesh.

[Master of Puppets]

You guys are so incredibally stupid it's not funny. What the hell is wrong with you?

First of all "coaster992001", you are gay. Good for you. Shut up about it.

Second of all "thecool326" and all you other bible quoting gay-bashers. You hate gays, you live perfectly by the bible and are all going to gay-less heaven. Good for you. Shut up about it.

What's it to you "thecool" if "coaster992001" is gay? Huh? Does it affect you? Does it somehow make you miserable knowing that he's happy with another guy instead of a chick?

All you other gay-bashers "screamomatic" and "pacoasterrider" along with "thecool" included, what the hell is it to you if people like coaster992001 are gay? It affects you idiots about the same amount it affects me. Not at all. I'm not gay but I certainly find it disturbing that you guys think it's important to rip on anyone who is. Mostly because the most it could ever affect you is if a gay guy hit on you where you could say "no, I'm not gay" and that would be that.

Idiots, you act like because he's gay you are going to hell.

GROW UP.

Man MOP ... I was trying to be polite ... well said! LOL!!!!

And uh ... take some advice fellas -- think about not replying ... you just got slapped all over the place and ought to take the spanking ... thus showing some maturity. [xx(]

Geesh.

[coolbeans326]

^ Meh, didn't quote anything, just was stating my points, and saying that you believe its wrong is not gay bashing, this is gay bashing, "Hey faggit, I hate you because your gay." That's gay bashing. Have I done that? No, do I think that? No, thus making me not a gay hater, get your thoughts strait next time before you make yourself look like as much of a fool as us.
And I'm pissed off that you accuse me of commiting an action I did not commit. Just because your athiest, doesn't mean your views are always right. And I hate it when people always think they're always right, or force their opinion/beliefs on someone. My beliefs are being gay is a sin, just like any other sin we commit every day. And that sin is apart of our world, and all we can do is ask GOd for forgiveness. Like, I'll look at people some people, like yugio card people, and I'll hate them, just because they spend their time playing stupid yugio cards. Now that's wrong in a "Christian stand-point" but does that mean I'm going to hell for thinking that? I think we all forgot the most important thing when we were debating this in a Christian standpoint in that Jesus forgives us our sins, and that through Him, we get into heaven, not by being strait or gay, or by being "perfect". But as for you athiestic people who think this is all a load of BS, good for you, do I care what you think? No, I have my beliefs and I'm sticking to them. And I'll gladly die for them.
MoP Doesn't know what Gay-bashing is and should shut up, before I pop out of his computer screen and strangle him to deat with his intestines![:(!]

actually, MOP did a good job saying what i've been trying to put to words a couple of times lol... and he's right about gay bashing. gay bashing is any form of putting down homosexuals, weather it be physical, verbal, hell.. a gay person doesnt even need to be involved! lol. but yeah... just let us be gay like we were born to be [:)] and i think the reason why this topic even came up in the other topic was because we want our rights!! [:)]

[coolbeans326]

well, w/e. FIne I'm a gay-basher you happy now? Is every body happy? I hate gay's is that what MoP wants me to say? Are you happy now? God, I only state what I believe my religion states and people go and say, "YOu can't say that, that's being a bigot, and this world has to be politically correct these days. So, you can't say being gay is not what GOd is intended. Errk, people don't understand that not everything you do in this world is right!!! Like said, we all do bad! And you people go calling me a gay-basher for saying my beliefs! I'm not discriminating any-one now am I? That should be the defination of Gay-bashing is hating, not saying what they think they're religion states.
On a less mad note, Where did I ever say, "Your going to hell because your gay, your going to hell!" That's what you said MoP, and I'm yet to find a place. We were just debating beliefs, and beliefs does not mean you go around and treat people disrespectfully just becuase of your sexuality. If you gay, that's cool with me, I ahve no problem with that, but people started a religious/gay debate and I thought I'd join in to, if it wasn't for people bringing religion into this, I wouldn't have brought it in, and TConwell, i would hardly consider that a spank, I'd consider that a slap in the face, and needs retaliation to it. And just because I responded doesn't mean I'm immature, it means that I'm not gonna take crap from some one who doesn't pay attention to the context in which things are being written. I found it funny though, how he didn't include your name, TConwell, because you too, were showing what God says about homosexuality in a christian stand-point, is it that every one is out to get me? I dunno.

^^even though the first half of your reply seems to be against my cause here, i oddly find myself agreeing? i'm confused lol

Wait, wait, wait, I didn't say I hated gay people, I just don't approve of them, so don't look at me, at least I said sorry.



Edit: I think that coaster992001 started this topic so we could get mad at eachother, I think it should be locked, along with this "gay-bashing" debate.

will everyone stop pointing blame! we all did stuff here!!

[Master of Puppets]

Well since all is hunky-dory and it appears that now everyone loves gay people, I'm locking this.

[Oscar]

I am going to reply to this topic and not allow any more replies, after all it is already locked, just going to throw in my quick opinion of this.
In the preachings of Jesus he taught that we should love one another for who we are. He never stated we should hate this race beause of that, nor he said we should hate other religions, he simply taught us to love one another. He also stated that he is the one who sacrificed his life to clear all of us for the sins that we committ. With that said, if there is so much misinterpretations of the bible, then why not take the clear words of love one another and run with it and believe in Jesus words that he has taken care of our sins. That means if being gay is a sin, then those sinners have a guaranteed passage into heaven.
Anyway, just put up with it people, the bible has many interpretations, has many clear meanings and with so much stuff in it, it is easy to interpret it to your benefit. So accept the fact that one can find something to back up their cause and find passages that will not benefit their cause.
Jesus, the one who died for our sins told us to love each other, and if you are religious, and follow a religion to the letter, then rethink your sacred beliefs and see how they stand up to the holly one and think of what he would say, accept them for who they are.

And as for mop's comment, I couldn't agree more. How in the hell is it affecting you that "X" person is gay if they are not coming onto you? They have every right to be here just as you are.
I am straight, proud of it. Remember that homosexuality isn't just about the sex, in most of the cases it isn't about sex. It is about the mewntal comfort one gets by being with someone who truly understands them and can relate to them well, and if they can find that in a man and not in a woman, then so be it. I for one have found always my comfort with the women. they're beautiful and will always have them around.
Thank you for your time on reading this.
And please people, don't be an idiot like screamomatic and pacocoasterrider and make yourselves look like fools using such language, refrain from it and use your intellect. I would like to believe that you have some, but these two have showed none.
I apologize to the gay and straight members here on this forum for the actions of the rude posters in this topic, it is a public forum and I can see some people were offended but that is what happens with the freedom of speech. If you have any comments, private message me and we can deal with this one to one.
Once again, I am straight so don't make any advances to me