Everyone in the US should see this

[Kev]

Originally posted by Buster

Anybody with common sense would believe that there's nothing to be afraid of when just asking questions - especially if you ask a politician after he had you asking in the first place.

Apparently, Kev, you lack common sense and can't answer a simple question.

I'm sorry... Did somebody ask me a question?

[Oscar]

Then I'm throwing dice in the alley, officer Leroy comes up and he's like "Hey I thought I told you to..."

Then I'm like: "YEAH WHUTEVA!"

THIS IS MAI YEWNAITED STATES OF WHATEVA!

[jayman]

Originally posted by R92CP

Originally posted by jayman

being tazed is something incredibly easy to avoid..
it's fun and daring (oooh and unifying too) to say the cops abused their power, but really, they were all.. mellow out and he's like NOOOOOO000ooo..
and so for like 5 more minutes he's freaking out and screaming and even president kerry's all "dude chill out bro i'm trying to answer your question" and hes alll whhhaaaaaaaa and the cops are all, shut up or we'll make you.
he chose "unwisely"

He did nothing but ask a question.......why must police abuse their power? It's getting so common nowdays. He really didn't do anything.

no , he did more than ask a question.. he smugly shouted a question(no need for tazing here)
then he ignored the police when they rolled up on him (still no tazer)
then he started screaming and acting like a spoiled child who's attending college on his parents tab (we're getting closer to tazer time)
then when the police try to hold him he tries to fight himself free (which was when the tazing should have happened, but the police were being patient)
finally they have to hold him on the floor , still screaming like a punk ass, at which tikme he is warmed "cooperate or you will get tazed" and even after that they give him time to change his mind
there was alot between his "asking a question " and the tazer..
police do abuse their power quite often, and in a red state like florida i'm sure it happens even more..i've been present when it happens, plus i do not really like police much because they are the type of assholes who take such a job, but in this case it's pretty apparent they did not.

Originally posted by Kev
Did somebody ask me a question?

Yes.
Here it is again: Can anyone explain why the police thought the guy should leave the room? Kerry wanted to hear his question and he was telling the question. What was wrong about that?

Of course this question wasn't directed at you personally, but it was directed at the people that think the police didn't do anything wrong and that it was the guys own fault. And since you belong to the group...

[jayman]

if they had tazed him as soon as he asked the question i'd agree.. i'd say fry em...

Ah, right. And since they tazed him while he was secured by four officers and didn't pose a threat to anyone (which he didn't all the time anyway), it's perfectly O-K?

Anyway, my question still stands. Anyone may answer (not only Kev).

[Kev]

Originally posted by Buster

Originally posted by Kev
Did somebody ask me a question?

Yes.
Here it is again: Can anyone explain why the police thought the guy should leave the room? Kerry wanted to hear his question and he was telling the question. What was wrong about that?

Of course this question wasn't directed at you personally, but it was directed at the people that think the police didn't do anything wrong and that it was the guys own fault. And since you belong to the group...

Okay. Well, Jayman pretty much summed it up. The only other things I would add to it is that 1) It is not wise bursting into a speaking event such as this and grab the nearest microphone to ask questions, instead of waiting your turn like everybody else. and 2) It is not wise to use 'offensive' language when at a public speaking event, such as 'Blow Job'. While many people, including myself, do use this type of language in everyday life, it has its place. This wasn't that place. IMHO, this whole thing has nothing to do with censoring free speech. It is more to do with how you act in public. If you are disruptive in public, and then try resisting arrest afterward, this type of thing is likely to happen. Had he asked his questions in a normal fashion, we wouldn't be talking about this kid right now.

[jayman]

i'd rather my side wasn't represented by whiny spoiled "know it all " college students who quote sources like journalists as reliable..

Originally posted by Kev
1) It is not wise bursting into a speaking event such as this and grab the nearest microphone to ask questions, instead of waiting your turn like everybody else.

Even if he had done that, there wouldn't be a reason for an arrest.
But it in fact was his turn to ask questions, so this point is invalid anyway.

Originally posted by Kev
2) It is not wise to use 'offensive' language when at a public speaking event, such as 'Blow Job'.

And that is breaking which law exactly? Oh, and where is the list of words that make "offensive language"?

"Not being wise" can't be the crime; so my question still stands.

[Oscar]

Can anyone explain why the police thought the guy should leave the room?
Maybe the cops were republicans and felt that the questions he was asking would probably lead to some secret government coverup being exposed [:)] After all, Kerry was real eager to answer it. That's just my opinion.
I answered, might not be riht but I answered now where's ma cookie!

[Kev]

Actually, from what i've seen on the news, he DID barge into the room and grab the nearest microphone. As for the offensive language, it is pretty much a 'common sense' type of thing. Most people know what language is acceptable in certain situations, and what is not. I personally wouldn't have used the term in that situation, since there are many other ways to describe the Clinton impeachment. Perhaps it boils down to what somebody else mentioned earlier in this thread about culture being different in the US compared to other countries, which might explain why you don't understand my point of view. The fact remains that his questions could have been asked in a more civilized way, and this wouldn't be discussed right now. It's not like his questions were all that out of the ordinary.

edit: link for a news story about how he burst into the room. - STAFF EDIT - LINK EDITED SO IT DOES NOT STRETCH OUT THE WHOLE PAGE CLICK HERE TO GO TO THE LINK

Watch the vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqAVvlyVbag
I see the guy standing calm in front of the mic until Kerry has him ask his questions.

So, what should he have said? Felatio?
Anyway, I still don't see the crime here. I certainly do not see how he was "disturbing the peace".

[Kev]

Okay Buster. That's your opinion. I was just giving you mine... since you asked.

Originally posted by Buster

Watch the vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqAVvlyVbag
I see the guy standing calm in front of the mic until Kerry has him ask his questions.

So, what should he have said? Felatio?
Anyway, I still don't see the crime here. I certainly do not see how he was "disturbing the peace".

I have to back buster here. Listen how Kerry says "Please ask your question." To me it sounded arrogant and cocky. I think he had the right to do a slight outburst as he did.

I dont know how many cops it takes to whoop my ass, but I know how many they used! Ron White


No matter what we think, this guy can always use that line now! [B)]

No, Chuck Norris!

wow.

[Kev]

The problem with videos is that you don't see the whole story. based solely on the youtube video, i would agree with Buster too on some of his points. The problem is that we don't see what happened before he is shown waiting at the microphone. That is why I provided the news link. I do respect Buster's opinion on this though, even though I don't agree with it. I'm sure a lot of Americans share his opinion too.


edit: sorry to have stretched out the page, STAFF. please forgive me. I clicked on some ads tonight, so cut me some slack. [:D]

Well, according to eyewitnesses, he jumped the line of people that wanted to ask questions. That's all.
But jumping the line is hardly a crime either. Also the police arrested him when he stepped back from the mic to hear the answer.

Why didn't they just use pepper spray?

[Kev]

Actually... based on the video... the arrest came shortly after he said 'blow job'. that was when they cut the mic and he became really upset. I guess that was the final straw.

^ I didn't notice the "blow job" statement till now.

Originally posted by Buster

Well, according to eyewitnesses, he jumped the line of people that wanted to ask questions. That's all.
But jumping the line is hardly a crime either. Also the police arrested him when he stepped back from the mic to hear the answer.

Just thought I'd add on to that statement. Here's a quote from SFMM's map: "Line jumping is not permitted. Violators may be ejected from the Park without refund."

Replace park with interview hall and it's understandable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE76LQwT6qA

Notice that he talks for exactly 90 seconds total and is being interrupted by the police after only 30 seconds - by then he didn't say anything "bad" at all.