Horseshoe: A whole new launch experience

I have to agree with Supercell... The supports don't look Intamin-like...

Please tunnel test this, it looks a bit too close.

Looks good so far!

Ok fun time

Tidus - take advice well and don't whine when it is offered. He was simply making a suggestion and you got all defensive.

Brandon - Please don't make stupid posts you retard.

The probabally sounded a little mean towards Tidus but my point was don't lock up so much when advice is given.

I did not lock up, I was asking opinions, which is the opposite of locking up. At least in THIS world it is.

I might be wrong though, please...correct me...:

Anyways, to CD:

Please tunnel test this, it looks a bit too close.

That dive under the supports there?

I did, it was my top priority, it passed, I tried to get it as CLOSE as I could without crossing that threshold, and boy is it a HEADCHOPPER lol!!!

It actually got someone to ask PLEASE TUNNEL TEST THIS, when I did, that's what you call a good headchopper! [:p]

To Coastaguy:

Thanks for the pic. um, I am working on them finally, but I have always been confused with the fact that supports angle inwards, instead of outwards. Like on helixes, there is the vertical support on the outside of the turn, but the angling supports angle towads the interior of the turn...if the forces are being applied to the outside, or bottom of the turn (which is why Inta. track is a triangle support formation), how is it that there are no supports on the outside of the turn. Why is there just that lone vertical support?

I need to know so I can know whether to angle my supports to the outside of the turn, or the inside of the turn.

HELP!

ex:

right

http://www.rcdb.com/ig628.htm?picture=2

ex 2:

why?

http://www.rcdb.com/ig1574.htm?picture=9

I do notice that the Xcel. pic's supports, show the lone outside supports slightly angled, but most of the supports lean towards the inside of the turn? That does not sound structurally sounds, all the force is being absorbed into one support!

Actually yes you did ask opinions but when they were given you got defensive.

I'd just cut that topic now if I were you, just stop, I don't want to start something with you.

Why not add him to your "started stuff with" list? [:P]

That would be because I don't have one...

And that's not the point. Can someone answer my question about these weird building habits?

Originally posted by Tidus



Thanks for the pic. um, I am working on them finally, but I have always been confused with the fact that supports angle inwards, instead of outwards. Like on helixes, there is the vertical support on the outside of the turn, but the angling supports angle towads the interior of the turn...if the forces are being applied to the outside, or bottom of the turn (which is why Inta. track is a triangle support formation), how is it that there are no supports on the outside of the turn. Why is there just that lone vertical support?

Many B&M supports also face inwards.


It usually depends on what the designer or park wants and remember this is steel, it works well under tension and compression. Also the footers aren't only concrete, it's reinforced to give it the strength of both worlds as well. Simple Physics lesson shows:

If you split the resultant force (Fresult) into components F1 and F2 it can be canceled out using the single support strength and the tension strength or at least the horizontal component of it.


[Lol] bad spelling in that pic.

Please note that this pic applies for a closed environment where the track an supports weigh nothing and no weather or harmonic movement is involved. So anyone reading this shouldn't be doff enough to......try build this in reality IOW [:p]

So...um, why do they almost always angle inwards?

Because that pic. showed what i'm talking about, it angles to the outside, not inside, like most supports, why do they angle INSIDE, and not where the forces go? I care about strength, not what they consider is that park's "style". Safety first.

Unless you're saying it does not matter whether they face inwards or outwards.