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Post November 10th, 2010, 9:42 am
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Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

their "we don't accept blood transfusions" idea kills people.


Kills THEM, not people.

And nothing of value was lost.

Post November 10th, 2010, 11:49 am
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That is a good point. At least they're not like the people that refuse to get vaccinated and as a result kill babies.
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Post November 10th, 2010, 5:03 pm
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There are much, much worse religions out there. Consider yourself lucky it's only Jova's that are a problem in your area.
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Post November 10th, 2010, 6:09 pm
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OMG they came again today! I yelled, I am busy eating breakfast! They kept saying "we'll just take a minute of your time." I kept saying I didn't have a minute to give, which was true, I was late to get to out of the house and drive to school. They waited for like 10 minutes while I ate my breakfast. Then I ran off print my homework out and when I drove out the driveway they were gone on over to the next house.
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Open up your windows and touch your self. They won't stay.
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Post November 10th, 2010, 6:54 pm

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Originally posted by fear the four

Open up your windows and touch your self. They won't stay.


lol'd irl.
and be nice? i'm sorry, but what? whether they're nice people or not, they're trying to get me to change my way of life. at the door.
"hello sir, would you like a new conservatory?"
"no, i don't buy at the door, much too big a deision to be made here and now."
"oh that's a shame. Well then how about a very restricting lifestyle change to conform to an unproved deity that might endanger your health in times of desperation?"
"well, that'll suit me down to the ground!"
come on. what if we were to apply that to every belief ever? (i forget the philosopher who documented this theory on "what if everyone did it")
"hello sir, would you like to give up having sexual intercourse completely until you get married, then only do it to have children while you worship a deity that neither be proved or disproved? Oh and you get to unjustly hate homosexuals, too."
"hello sir, we'd like to take a moment of your time to ask if you've ever been interested in sacrificing goats- *door slam*"
"hello sir, have you ever thought about giving up your entire belief system and as such set of morals to believe in nothing but science? it's jolly good, we feel the need to explain everything and constantly are being told by religious people to repent for our sins!"
seriously. they can be who they want to be, but leave me alone. i get enough passive religious propoganda to ruin my day as it is. i think doctor steel is a good enough leader for now, thank you.
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Post November 10th, 2010, 7:29 pm
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FTF I think the goal of getting them to leave is to not be arrest for exposing yourself (or exposing yourself to a minor if a child is in the street) in the process.
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Post November 10th, 2010, 7:40 pm

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They shouldn't be looking in your windows anyways. Get a a white picket fence like thisImage

and a sign that states "No religious people,Jesus loves you, not me"
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Post November 10th, 2010, 7:47 pm

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Originally posted by gouldy

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

their "we don't accept blood transfusions" idea kills people.


Kills THEM, not people.

And nothing of value was lost.


Hey now, their kids are also dying from that; there's news stories everywhere on a kid who wanted to live, but his/her dumbass parent wanted him/her to die because of their religious beliefs. To be fair, even if those kids decided to die, they were indoctrinated and too young to think for themselves.

Have a little pity. It's nearly as bad as women and children who live under Sharia law. They may believe in all the lunacy that their oppressors believe in, but they're somewhat unfairly suffering for it.

Nonetheless, your point still holds in many cases.

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I've never seen any Jehovah's Witnesses at my house. Maybe I'm just lucky? Or maybe they pass by me because they see my "God Bless America" sign? Maybe they don't live in Sandusky? I dunno... [dunno]

Post November 11th, 2010, 4:50 am
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Yeah, I can only assume that there are people caught up in it that aren't necessarily there through their own volition, as there is with any religion/cult/mind control device. That is obviously quite a sad thing and I do take some pity on some of these people. Apart from that small percentage though, my point is vaild, like you say.

Religions and cults of this nature are becoming a dying thing, slowly, and every person who ends up dead directly because of their religion (like refusing a blood tranfusion) is just another one removed from the gene pool and prevented from polluting the next generation. As harsh as that might sound, it is true and it's called evolution [;)] or natural selection, or progress.

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Yay for evolution. ^.^
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Post November 11th, 2010, 11:31 am
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That isn't evolution
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Post November 11th, 2010, 1:45 pm
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It leads to it. It removes a certain type of person from the gene pool, therefore the gene pool is cleansed and what triggers that kind of behaviour doesn't pass onto the next generation. Evolution.

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Sometimes the stuff said on this site is really lame. Everyone just loves to hate on everything and make huge generalizations, and try to sound intelligent in the process.

It's fine if your annoyed that they come to your homes, but why does it always turn into these topics of hating on entire groups of people

Post November 11th, 2010, 2:03 pm
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Religion has nothing to do with genes. It has to do with humans having to "know" things which as of yet have not been discovered and giving themselves the feeling of being more important than they actually are (something which I would think obeying a higher power's every whim would actually take away from)
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Post November 11th, 2010, 2:50 pm
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^*grumble*...

I hate it when people say things like that, since we're supposed to be the ones who are humble and meek, and show the world the way to God through our un-natural love for each-other and everyone. Clearly we aren't doing our jobs.

Post November 11th, 2010, 3:02 pm
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You are supposed to be humble, but why would you willingly believe something with no evidence that makes you feel worse about yourself? Clearly they have some elevated sense of self-meaning or else you and others would not believe as you do. Sorry, it's just plain fact.
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Post November 11th, 2010, 3:18 pm
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^And I find it equally hard to believe that Jesus and all of His disciples somehow staged the whole thing, and were somehow willfully deceiving everyone into believing what they knew to be a lie for what amounted to no personal gain whatsoever, where every single one of them ended up executed. I can understand the distrust of the religions based on one person being 'enlightened' and saying "This is the way. Follow it." But it's a little harder to distrust a religion that was founded based on someone actually claiming to be God, and who actually backed it up with extraordinary miracles and the personal witnesses of hundreds of people.

And it doesn't "make me feel worse about myself." That is pagan thought, which has sadly infested Christianity. (Oh no, my life suddenly sucks. God must be against me! I must pray and give Him a sacrifice so He will like me again!)
1. I don't have to worry about my life all the time.
2. I know exactly how I should be living my life the most fruitfully. Not having to worry about "did I do the right thing?" Is a HUGE burden lifted.
3. I do not worry, saying "What shall I eat?" or "What shall I drink?" or "What shall I wear?" For I know that He knows I need all of these things, and all will be provided.
4. When something is troubling me, I can pray about it and know that it will be taken care of. And actually getting answers to prayer is unbelievable.
5. I don't have to complain "why me?" when things go wrong, because I know everything has a purpose, and that I just need to find it and learn from it.
6. Praying and singing hymns in solitude is by far the most peaceful and uplifting thing that I have ever done.
7. When someone dies, I know that I'm not really saying goodbye. Yes, it still hurts, but there is also hope.

In light of all of that, what are my petty self-loathing moments where I have to admit that I screwed up worth? Nothing. They are but a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes.

Post November 11th, 2010, 3:32 pm
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Originally posted by cjd

^And I find it equally hard to believe that Jesus and all of His disciples somehow staged the whole thing, and were somehow willfully deceiving everyone into believing what they knew to be a lie for what amounted to no personal gain whatsoever, where every single one of them ended up executed.

Yes, I am sure that it is more likely that the natural laws of the entire universe were suspended than some dude and his friends lied. Please stop trying to bend probabilities in your favor.

Also, assuming the I can understand the distrust of the religions based on one person being 'enlightened' and saying "This is the way. Follow it." But it's a little harder to distrust a religion that was founded based on someone actually claiming to be God, and who actually backed it up with extraordinary miracles and the personal witnesses of hundreds of people.

David Blaine also performed miracles in front of hundreds of people. Imagine what would be thought of him if he lived thousands of years ago. He would certainly be escalated to the level of deity. How is it at all harder to distrust a religion which makes greater clams, while still providing no more evidence to their validity? Do you think the more extraordinary the claim, the more likely it is to be true? In that case I predict you will be smacked over the head by a purple gorilla fired out of a cannon from china.
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Post November 11th, 2010, 3:45 pm
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You're gonna kick yourself when you read about that exact inccident occurring in the paper tomorrow.

Post November 11th, 2010, 3:47 pm
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Originally posted by gouldy

It leads to it. It removes a certain type of person from the gene pool, therefore the gene pool is cleansed and what triggers that kind of behaviour doesn't pass onto the next generation. Evolution.

[lol]


But there are more fat fundamentalist rednecks being created than normal people. This is doing the opposite of what you described.

CJD:
If I recall from the dream topic, you have some issues you need to work out because you're using religion as a mechanism to enhance some kind of Ted Haggard level of intense denial going on.
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Post November 11th, 2010, 3:52 pm
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Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

using religion as a mechanism to enhance some kind of Ted Haggard level of intense denial going on.


hahaha!

Post November 11th, 2010, 4:22 pm

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CJD... i can't believe i'm saying this but...
you stereotypical noob.
"y'all be motherf**kin' liers" kinda thing goin' on...
I really see religion now as that one kid who made this ridiculous claim, and everyone went "coo', isn't that brillant!" and trusted him. then later all this evidence comes about that what this kid said didn't really happen and lotsa people just moved on, whereas there's the kid hanging on for sheer desperation, wishing it was true "NUHUH! it really happened!"
and the people with the evidence to see the truth are goin' "yeah whatever, move on" you're that kid. let your silly god go.
i'll give you an example of a lie pertaining completely to absolute bullcrap. do you remember that thing a little while ago, about the MMR jab causing autism?
http://tiny.cc/lbxli
http://tiny.cc/y7pf9
and how even though there was a crapton of scientific evidence to show no correlation between the jab and actual cases of autism, people genuinely believed it and were too scared because they refused to listen to the cold hard evidence laid out before them?
http://tiny.cc/sbch8
http://tiny.cc/b8csh
http://tiny.cc/sjk8p
yeeeeah. the kid who won't let go was the one with the most friends, and just because they were loyal to him they wouldn't let go, even though the truth was plain.
that's you. you're the mum that will discount their own childs SAFETY because she thinks scientists lie.
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