New Coaster Train Design

This is a new design for an "swinging inverted standing" train. This was a design I was thinking about and recently made a simple 3d model. Special features include hydraulic powered programmable or free swinging, ski style foot restraints, and an "open" design. Instead of a floor, there are only the foot restraints, with even space between them, to give a "free" feeling. Like traditional stanging coasters, there are OTSRs, between the leg restraints and side restraints. Unlike conventional inverted coasters, this train rides atop the rail and has armes hanging down. This is designed mainly for high speed turns, such as on a launch coaster, but could be adapted.
http://s318.photobucket.com/albums/mm43 ... design.jpg

Color Key:

Orange: OTSRs
Gray: Support columns
Red: Between-leg restrains
Black: Foot and side restrains, back rest
Blue: Pivot Point
Yellow: Support bar
Green: Hydraulic equiptment
Purple: Hydraulics
Aqua: Placement for wheels (track runs between)

Hmmm...
I guess i forgot to think about that at first. It would most likely use magnetic fin brakes, so the "grooves" for those would go in the yellow bar/ green box.

Oh, I always thought about making one of these. Same concept but mine is executed much differently. Maybe I can create a drawing to show you what I was thinking eventually. This is neat.

Thanx Snj! Glad you like it, seems like something intamin might consider...

[Coasterkidmwm]

This wouldn't hurt like hell at all.

[gouldy]

what the hell did you make that model on? MS Paint?

[TheArchitect]

If the coaster rides on top of the track and hangs beneath it, then how do you support the track?

One, no this would't hurt, why would it, and two, the supports would be like normal coaster supports, and run between the cars on the train. It would be wide enough to not allow people to touch the supports.

I made this model in Anim8or, its a 3ds file.

I have always thought about it but never done it. Looks like a decent deign, onny you should place the seats closer and support them from the bottom. Just a thought. I might try it myself.

Originally posted by musicmonkey

the supports would be like normal coaster supports, and run between the cars on the train. It would be wide enough to not allow people to touch the supports.

If this design runs freely swinging like you said, then you'd be screwed with between-the-seats supporting...There is really no possible way to successfully support the track the way you've planned it, with the wheels and train connecting on top, and seats swinging freely below. You may want to consider making this the way a conventional suspended coaster is made, that way you won't have that support issue; there's a reason inverted and suspended coaster trains are connected to the under-parts of the track [;)]

[Coasterkidmwm]

Do you mean that the cars swing the way Orphan Rocker works? Think of a mine cart but put the pivot point at the top.

[gouldy]

I may have a go at modelling a coaster car of some form, I have ?????????40,000 worth of design software at my finger tips at work and lunch time can get so boring, so... might be a cool project to work on for a bit. I have been modelling up a full sized coaster at work atm, it's been fun, but pretty hard. This may be a little bit easier, I'll probably model up and B&M Invert train or something I think!

About the freeswinging and support conflict, the seats would only be able to swing inward as far as they are shown in the picture, at 90 degrees, and since they are on hydraulics, the swinging could also be controlled, as in the idea of a coaster like X, but swinging outward.

Causing Lats, and killing the riders...

Ok ianko 66, dont be such a dickhead. its a design, not a final plan, it could be changedd, in five muintes i could post a new picture of it hanging from the rails, would that please you?

Shut up musicmonkey.

We're giving you help and if you didn't want it then dip out of here. Those who don't want help are not wanted here [;)]

But yeah, forcing the seats to stop swinging at a certain time is garb man, it's going to be unsuccessful if you try it like that; mainly because of lats and after a while the pressure on the hydraulics will cause maintenance issues. I was under the impression both seats would swing with with eachother, but if they both swing independently, a collision is inevitable.

in five muintes i could post a new picture of it hanging from the rails, would that please you?

You could...now that you've gotten our advice <3

[TheArchitect]

It's quite simply just gonna have to be very wide trains where the cars can only swing in by 20' or 30' have an air cusion effect so when the trains reach their max inward swing it doesn't slam. Maybe the inside cars could have a barrier so passengers don't put out their arms inwards toward the supports. Supporting could be difficult if the track is banked but I know of a few designs which could work.

Why would you put the supports in between the seats? That's just ridiculous. A) You could have 4-abreast cars instead of 2. B) It would be safer to have each seat in a row connected to one another (like every suspended coaster...)

Details aside, I guess this is a cool idea, but it's just not very innovative IMO. There are plenty of problems with suspended trains that could be solved: visibility, comfort (no more OTSRs), etc.

I like this idea...I have always thought of either this style ride or an inverted wood coaster which i believe someone had digital art for before on here. Deff. something I would think someone like Intamin or Gerstlauer might try.

I always had the idea of being in a hamster ball on a track. like that one chap-stick commercial a few years ago

And not to sound like a total dickface, but I think this would be a real eye sore.

I don't see how this offers a different experience than Vekoma's open suspended trains, not to mention the support problems people already talked about.

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The big problem i saw with it is if you look where the feet rest theres really nothing keeping the feet from slipping off of the black rectangles. And i have to agree it looks pretty pain inducing.

Maybe have like a type of boot type slipper similar to a snowboard binding but less involved...and have it not go halfway up your leg.