Raptorational 11/15 Pics added

http://nldc.interfix.net/p974

After a really really really long time of not using NL for anything but riding cool rides, I'm actually making something. So since the begining of September I've been working on and off on a recreation of sorts of Raptor. I've discovered that many of the online recreations have the pacing way off on the ride, which is strange becuase most of the track is pretty accurate. So I'm taking a different approach. Pacing is my #1 goal for this ride. And while I have just completed the track framework, I'm putting alot of effort to make it feel real. I have also taken a little creative touch to the ride. Of the many times I went to CP this summer and who knows how many times I rode Raptor, I actually sat down and wondered what could make the ride that much cooler. I decided that making the first drop a twisting dive would be really awesome. The beauty of this element is that if I want to take it out, it doesn't really change anything becuase it follows the exact same profile as the real drop.

There is still alot of work left, I somehow managed to make the track 500 ft short. Supports, textures, and 3ds havn't even really been put on the drawing board yet. They will all get done, when they are done.

EDIT: 11/15

Added 2 screenshots of the ride. I have made a version of the ride which contains the normal drop. Smoothing out the ride is a bitch and has really been something that I'm not that great at, so progress is very slow. I havnt a clue on how to use the AHG so its all hand done. The g's are also cuasing a few problems. Feedback is usefull.

Is your Raptor non-heartlined like the real one is?

Looks cool for your terraforming and stuff are you gonna make a beach?

[Brtnboarder495]

The Real Raptor is heartlined or at least slipped... You would feel it if it wasn't, the only the turn that probably isn't heartlined is the last transition into the last break run.

The Raptors heartlined?
I dont think it is, all the transitions are way to quick for heartlining to be benifical. Or at least its not noticable.

Whether I'm making a beach....I donno, Raptor does take up alot of space and I havn't decided which elements and how mant of them I want to place around it. I know I really want to at least make the line, station, and a few other features that must be in there before I expand the overall look.

Originally posted by Brtnboarder495

The Real Raptor is heartlined or at least slipped... You would feel it if it wasn't, the only the turn that probably isn't heartlined is the last transition into the last break run.

I was reading somewhere that Raptor wasn't heartlined which was why it looked funny to the guy who was describing it.

Originally posted by Woodie Man

Is your Raptor non-heartlined like the real one is?

What are you talking about? Non heartlined? ha! Show me where it isnt, Ill prove you wrong.


Transition quickness has nothing to do with it being heartlined or not. Raptor was built in the early 90's, not the late 40's. Batman was the first B&M Invert to enter the scene and its heartline, every bit of it.

Even the last turn is heartlined. The only problem is the transition is very quick. If you put your head back, like the directions say, your head will not move to the pads but in one place during the entire ride. Its something Ive practiced and works every time.


Some also believe the first drop isnt heartlined because of how it throws its riders out to the side but I have proof on that one too.

Well, you might think it's hard to tell in this picture but I think the turns to the breaks aren't heartlined.

http://www.rcdb.com/ig1.htm?picture=13

I have a feeling my earlier statement might backfire on me so just forget about it.

Actually, I remember Riding the sky-ride and seeing that it actually heartlined. Inverted coasters might not look heartlined in lots of places, when they are really actually heartlined. It's that inverts are really wierd when it comes to heartlining.

So tell me how it should look then. I dont think maybe but a few people know what heartlining actually looks like on an inverted coaster. ESPECIALLY when it involves just a turn and not an inversion. Its easy to see it in an inversion but it takes a keen eye to spot it in just a turn.

It also becomes much harder to see when the train gradually unbanks or banks, much harder to see.

^As I said two posts ago. I figured my comment would backfire. Thank you for setting the record straight yet again Real.

What's up with your first drop?

Whoops, forgot to read [sillyme]

Originally posted by Woodie Man

^As I said two posts ago. I figured my comment would backfire. Thank you for setting the record straight yet again Real.

You arent the only one who says this, so its not really just a statement to you. To all who think it isnt, I would like to see both physical proof along with a logical explantion.

^My physical proof is that this weekend if I shine a light through my ear it comes out the other ear.

Woot raptor recreation! don't screw it up or I'll hunt you down... [flush] and although this is off topice, I didn't feel like making another post for it but does anyone know where I can find blueprints for Mean Streak?

I certainly don't know where to find blueprints for any coaster.

Perhaps my interpretation of heartlining is little inacurate. What exactly is it?
My understanding is that its the point located at the center of gravity of a row in the train and that this spot remains in a constant position above/below the track throughout the ride no matter the banking.

But how the track shapes around that point is much harder to see in an Inverted coaster than a regular Sitdown coaster that rides on top of the rails.

Understanding what heartlining is is actually quite easy. Actually knowing how to identify it, especially on inverts (not counting inversions) is a bit harder.


Im doing a ton of studying right now but Ill do up a side by side comparison using a turn or drop similar to ones you guys may know and show it non-heartlined and heartlined for comparison. But thats probably for tomorrow.

Once you imagine the heartline in your head, It's very easy to see. I find it easy to see the heartline on any coaster, then again, I'm a professional[:p][;)]

I think the zero g roll is heartlined, the bankings might be slipped, or simply designed to reduce the laterals by unbanking softly rather than abruptly.

What does it mean if something is "slipped".

I think it means somewhat of a smoother transition whre banking lets out gradually, but I don't really know.

Ignore the term slip, it means nothing.

Its either heartlined, or not. That simple. The term was used to describe the motion heartlining seems to make so if you think it slips, it must heartline. You cant have one without the other.


Im still waiting, lol. Its funny that people think its not heartlined because it has laterals. It does because the transitions are fast, like most early B&M's when they designed with intensity in mind. Since then, you can tell things are not the same. Transitions got much longer and softer.

Yaa, now-a-days people want to plop down in the seat and not have to move or control themselves. With the old ones it's out of control(but still smooth) I'd have to say when I rode raptor it totally surprised me, so make a good suped-up-raptor recreation.