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Post December 12th, 2005, 10:01 pm

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have you ever wondered how high coasters will go?
what do you think the height limit will be?

Post December 12th, 2005, 10:04 pm

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550, anything higher would require some insane strong supports. Plus the money to make a coaster that tall is only owned by Bill Gates and the collected fortune of everyone in china.

Post December 12th, 2005, 10:07 pm

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It's gonna be 456 for awhile, it isn't gonna get much bigger.

Post December 12th, 2005, 10:14 pm

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i hope busch gardens williamsburg makes a 500 ft coaster wouldnt that be great hepta lol

Post December 12th, 2005, 10:24 pm

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We often experience a period of broken records followed by a period of smaller yeat smarter rides. Hence the recent showing of smaller but longer rocket coasters. But, as far as limits go, I honestly don't think there is one. Designers used to feel they would reach a limit for what people would be willing to ride. The fact is, as long as they are safe and reliable, at least within the first year ha ha (small jab at TTD and KK), people will ride whatever is built.

Post December 12th, 2005, 10:27 pm

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but what if they get to extreme maybe people wont go on them but me i'll go on anything safe

Post December 12th, 2005, 10:32 pm

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i honestly think that there will be no limit as to what the future holds for rollercoasters i think it all depends on the architect, the space provided, and the budget

Post December 12th, 2005, 10:47 pm

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I think coasters will be too tall when people will have to wear oxygen masks to ride them!

Post December 12th, 2005, 10:54 pm

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Originally posted by nannerdw

I think coasters will be too tall when people will have to wear oxygen masks to ride them!

yeah, that might be a little bit excessive lol

Post December 12th, 2005, 10:55 pm

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well isnt the stratosphere tower like 1000 ft tall, and you cans till walk outside of it and ride the rides...so no oxygen mask. Its gotta be impossible on supports to handle more then 1000ft.

I still think a drop of the stratoshpere tower would be awesome. As long as a track piece held up by a support that touches ground, cant it be qualified as the worlds tallest coaster?

Post December 12th, 2005, 10:56 pm

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I think they have no limit but they need to be ultra and i mean really smoothe so people dont die from whiplash, they need to be bullet proof, or else theyll just make intense simulators, lazy people!lol

Post December 12th, 2005, 10:58 pm

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originally posted by Real
Its one of the roughest steel rides I have ever ridden. Definatly has more than that "Intamin shuffle" and I think, without changing the trains, that we have hit the absolute limit.

I have ridden Dragster over 50 times and multiple times up near the 126mph mark and in no way did the trains vibrate like Ka's did. I heard reports of this but really didnt believe any of them.


Real obviously knows what he is talking about, and if this is true (which I'm sure it is) we won't be seeing 500 for a long long time.

Post December 12th, 2005, 11:00 pm

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I still think theres a crazy mind out there that will try it. And not be from Intamin. 500 ft just cant be ignored. It will be hapenning

Post December 12th, 2005, 11:07 pm

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Originally posted by josh00110

i honestly think that there will be no limit as to what the future holds for rollercoasters i think it all depends on the architect, the space provided, and the budget

Exactly. Thinking we've hit some kind of limit or something is pretty foolish... especially since nobody has come up with a good reason why it would be risky to build coasters any taller.

Doesn't matter though, since the average height of coasters now is just fine for providing an exciting ride. The taller a coaster gets, the slower the pacing has to be for the gs to stay within limits.

Post December 12th, 2005, 11:13 pm

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I Don't see a problem with the heighth, but damn, something besides launch, up over, down, brake, get off!!!! Storm Runner is way more awesome than TTD ( I have yet to ride KK, but am in no hurry to do it) I just don't see a 4 day long line for a one trick pony

Post December 12th, 2005, 11:16 pm

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Originally posted by eddie200330

I Don't see a problem with the heighth, but damn, something besides launch, up over, down, brake, get off!!!! Storm Runner is way more awesome than TTD ( I have yet to ride KK, but am in no hurry to do it) I just don't see a 4 day long line for a one trick pony

well... your right about that storm runner is no where near the height of ttd or kk but way better as far as the layout after ttd kk just went i think about 36 feet higher and added an extra hill they need to start showing some originality

Post December 12th, 2005, 11:27 pm

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That is the word I was looking for, originality, thank you very much. Could you imagine a tiple looping(vertical, not spiral) drop coming down from the top of TTD!!!!!!

Post December 12th, 2005, 11:52 pm

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All I have to say is that if coasters will be going any faster or higher than now, the wheel size will need a large increase as well as the track size and strength. Supports may need to be skyscraperlike to hold up the track.

Post December 13th, 2005, 12:40 am

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i cant see the height of any coaster being over 700 feet. i mean, seriously people, think about it. if it were a launch coaster, like TTD, it would have to have HUGE ins and outs into the tophat, and a long launch/brake. plus that would be unreliable.

the only thing i can see being the tallest coaster is a coaster identical to MF. it have to be intamin, like a 60* angle for the lift, and then the lead ins and outs for everything would be huge. it couldnt be like on its own island like on CP. its layout would have to go around the whole park. in and throughout midways and junk like that. and the length of it to be remotely exciting would have to be like 2 miles long. and an mcbr, and all of that kinda crap.

anyways, that is just my two cents.

Post December 13th, 2005, 1:04 am

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There is only one limit, cost.

The taller and longer the coaster is, the more expensive it is. Getting over 400 feet high is amazing, but I'd rather the thrill of Mindbender at Galaxy Land anyday. If you have the accelleration of KK, with the trackwork and smooth-ness of MF, mixed with some EGF airtime, you would have the greatest coaster out there.

Post December 13th, 2005, 1:09 am

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I dont care of the hights for roller coaster but at lease they are fun to ride and gets lots of air in them and i think the limit will be some thing like 550 feet tall but i doubt it

Post December 13th, 2005, 2:53 am

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I think sooner or later anothe intamin hydrualic will come out thats so freaking similar to KK and TTD that we are all going to be pissed about originality, but I will go a little more higher. To go over 400 ft costs a ton of money. 25 million "just for" launch tophat brakes. There real depth to the coaster. If a major coaster the style of MF but a world height record breaker than it wouldn't be in the style of a tradional coaster.
Hell with MF, you could almost put a bunch fo rides around the area it consumes anyway.

Post December 13th, 2005, 2:58 am

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^Yea, you could. You could pack like 3 FAR better rides in the area that that mediocre ride takes up.

Heck, Id rather see the metal taken for scrap, melted down then reused for a better coaster amongst those trees and lagoon.

Post December 13th, 2005, 4:12 am
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in addtion to all the posts made here,

the higher you build your drop the more speed you will get after that drop,
if it get too extreme, a lost fly could have a much impact as a bullet

Post December 13th, 2005, 8:44 am
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the future coaster is going to be 475ft above ground and then dives underground another 275 feet! [lol] highest drop: 750ft! [lol]

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