2007 Cedar Point Addition?

^b.c. the inversions would be dogging it. its called P H Y S I C S. the taller the coaster, the more things you can do while still keeping it fun, the smaller the coaster, the less things you can do while still keeping it fun.

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According to ACE news, Gerstlauer just announced at IAAPA that they are going to be building "one of the tallest coasters we've ever done" in North America in 2007. Does anyone else think that a massive Euro-Fighter with a past-90 degree drop would fit the bill as Kinzel's "big bang"?

Originally posted by Jimmy Yoshi

I recently read in the newest ACE News newsletter that Gerstlauer was building something BIG in North America for 2007. And I quote,

"One of the largest coasters Gerstlauer has ever produced will be coming to North America for the 2007 season."

Personally, I wouldn't mind a 200+ ft tall Eurofighter.

But I realize that isn't very likely, capacity is a big thing for CP, and that's one of the biggest things B&M brings to the table. Since Flyers don't have good capacity, it will likely be a huge Floorless. Just my 2 cents.

d'oh... sorry, I was in a hurry.

It would still be cool though

[Brtnboarder495]

Yup, like Real said, CP is most likely already selecting their design for their next major attraction, that will be due out in 2009 or 2010. It's the way the world works, one task accomplished, begin work and planning on the next far in advance. It's not like a coaster firm will start working on a coaster when we find out, if anything they've known about it for at least four times as long as we have.

I hope it's a not a Euro-fighter, I heard they aren't very good...

yikes a new euro fighter for 07 i hope its not going to busch!!

Why? Eurofighters kick ass.

Originally posted by ragan

^b.c. the inversions would be dogging it. its called P H Y S I C S. the taller the coaster, the more things you can do while still keeping it fun, the smaller the coaster, the less things you can do while still keeping it fun.

Really now, do you believe that?

yeah, i do. you can do things with a 300 footer than things you cant do with a 100 footer.

I disagree. Almost all of your high inversion high element rides are under 160ft.

All of your really long, really high rides are for the most part out and back Hyper coasters. Which, theres nothing wrong with that at all. Its my favourite type but I think anything over 250ft, like MF, actually limits you because of a few reasons.

1. Money - the costs of a ride this size are massive. Mf was 25 mil and its really nothing more than a large lift, 2 medium sized hills and a few overbanks. Nothing special.

2. G Forces - In order to keep the G's down on a ride going 90mph you need large radii and leadin's/outs. This increases the overall length of the ride which increases the cost and increases the size plot needed.

3. Along with the G Forces being kept down it limits your elements as well because alot of the elements we love on steel loopers actually work best in smaller sizes. I believe that most elements have a "effective" range in size where too small and they lose their specific purpose and too large as well. A 200ft loop would be a bore compared to a 80ft loop. Why? Because it would be impossible to recreate the feeling of the 80ft loop in the 200ft.


You can make more happen in a larger ride but theres actually more factors working against you when you think about it. Look at Colossus at Thorpe. Its what, like 130ft tall? And it holds the inversion record.

Well, Cedar Point's reputation says it will be Tallest/Fastest, Take that!

^Thats the bad part.

And thats their past rep. Thats not what was said about this ride. All that was said was "Out with a bang."

[yoshifreak]

I just found this photo from coasterforce.com of some mysterious footers around the White Water Landing Area.

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[Brtnboarder495]

Originally posted by Real

I disagree. Almost all of your high inversion high element rides are under 160ft.

All of your really long, really high rides are for the most part out and back Hyper coasters. Which, theres nothing wrong with that at all. Its my favourite type but I think anything over 250ft, like MF, actually limits you because of a few reasons.

1. Money - the costs of a ride this size are massive. Mf was 25 mil and its really nothing more than a large lift, 2 medium sized hills and a few overbanks. Nothing special.

2. G Forces - In order to keep the G's down on a ride going 90mph you need large radii and leadin's/outs. This increases the overall length of the ride which increases the cost and increases the size plot needed.

3. Along with the G Forces being kept down it limits your elements as well because alot of the elements we love on steel loopers actually work best in smaller sizes. I believe that most elements have a "effective" range in size where too small and they lose their specific purpose and too large as well. A 200ft loop would be a bore compared to a 80ft loop. Why? Because it would be impossible to recreate the feeling of the 80ft loop in the 200ft.


You can make more happen in a larger ride but theres actually more factors working against you when you think about it. Look at Colossus at Thorpe. Its what, like 130ft tall? And it holds the inversion record.

Heh, you beat me too it.

I'm guessing that it's going to be launched then or something that hasn't been done before, judging from that quote.

Originally posted by Real

Look at Colossus at Thorpe. Its what, like 130ft tall? And it holds the inversion record.

Try Under 100. And that just supports your point...

Yeah, but Half of Colossus Inversions only look good close to the ground... but a B&M looks awxsome with massive Inversions, I still think it'll be a B&M Floorless, nothing will change my opinion 'till I see the ride itself.

I'm really hoping for a record breaking floorless coaster...or maybe and even bigger and better inverted than Raptor (don't get me wrong, Raptor is awesome!)

I gotta figure out what newspaper that came out of. They probably tell at CoasterForce but I cant be bothered to visit that trash anyways.

what about another dueling???

[yoshifreak]

I,m pretty sure it came out of the Sandusky Register Real, but i'm not sure.

They might just build a new type of coaster that is new. Like most of CP rides they are new to the market. So it might just be a new type of coaster.

you might want to change your avatar size there

lol i know thats pretty damn big.