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Post June 4th, 2006, 3:59 pm

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I'm just glad to have flyers period (.) I have sooo many ideas that I can only do with flyers right now

Post June 4th, 2006, 4:15 pm

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ehhh I'm not a big fan of vekoma flyers but I guess a flyer is a flyer so its still kinda cool but im mad its not a B&M.

Post June 4th, 2006, 4:16 pm
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Originally posted by Wing-Over

If he carries on at this rate, then it seems very likely.


you don't know how much he is going to include, or perhaps there are other thing to do than that can be shown in updates, so you never know, we'll know when he's ready as soon as it comes out
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Post June 4th, 2006, 4:16 pm
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I dunno, when I dream of flyers, I generally think of the B&M flyers. I didn't think I would be dissappointed with the unveiling of thier new train, but some how, they did me in. Oh well, I'm still crossing my fingers.[:D]

Post June 4th, 2006, 4:19 pm

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I was hoping for B&M flyers too. Maybe it's just that because B&M flyers get four or five times the hyper of Vekoma flyers. What I also notice is that when people build coasters, the number of Arrows and Vekomas is far outnumbered by B&M's.

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B&M's are looking quite likely IMO. Since we now know that they can make flyers, it shouldn't be too hard for them to use a similar model to make B&M trains. Basically all that needs to be done is invert the track, and remodel the trains. Although it's probably much harder than that, and there's probably some complications I haven't thought of.

Post June 4th, 2006, 4:40 pm
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Originally posted by Wing-Over

B&M's are looking quite likely IMO. Since we now know that they can make flyers, it shouldn't be too hard for them to use a similar model to make B&M trains. Basically all that needs to be done is invert the track, and remodel the trains. Although it's probably much harder than that, and there's probably some complications I haven't thought of.


how do you know they can? i've never seen anything that might looked like a flyer
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Post June 4th, 2006, 5:06 pm
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Nice, I wonder if they will update the stations to have loading and unloading platforms with the new style

Post June 4th, 2006, 5:28 pm
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Originally posted by coolbeans326

^ because your oblivious
http://www.nolimitscoaster.de/progress.htm


how should i know there was new update?

YAY for vekoma
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Post June 4th, 2006, 5:36 pm

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The vekoma flyer cars dont look that much different to the B&m one's.

Just look at Air on www.rcdb.com and then search for x flight

Air- B& M
X-flight- Vekoma

The vekoma trains have that Front piece on them and the B & M don't, please someone tell me whats wrong with Vekoma, look at hyyyper he's happy for vekoma. I am too.

Post June 4th, 2006, 6:08 pm

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^nothing is wrong with them, vekoma's have a bad rep because of all the things they had wrong with them in terms of reliability (which B&M's have had similar and as frequent issues on some of their flyers). I've ridden a version of both styles and, issues regarding reliability aside, the riding experience on a vekoma is no more or less comfortable or enjoyable than a B&M. B&M's obviously have the better layouts to make it more popular (not to mention the braking and load/unload procedures are a bit easier on you).

I myself am quite excited for em. I have a tough love for Batwing (dam faulty computers, but ohh sweet ride) and to be able to manipulate it would be pretty cool.

Post June 4th, 2006, 6:17 pm

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I'm hopin Ole adds an option in the editor for flyers that lets you flip the view so you don't have to edit upside down in certain areas.

Post June 4th, 2006, 8:37 pm
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Originally posted by hyyyper

Originally posted by coolbeans326

^ because your oblivious
http://www.nolimitscoaster.de/progress.htm


how should i know there was new update?

YAY for vekoma

We only talked about it for several pages before you made your comment.[;)]

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Post June 4th, 2006, 8:59 pm
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What do you mean about an alternative view for editing, SMer?

Post June 4th, 2006, 9:02 pm

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He means maybe they could add an option to flip the view in which you ride through the track in 3d view. So you dont need to edit something like the bottom of a pretzl for example, while upside down... Does that help?

Post June 4th, 2006, 9:07 pm

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kinda hard to explain. say you're building a flyer and the view is set to let you view it like an invert. well, what happens when you're trying to see if a right side up section is smooth or not (or maybe you're like me and editing in in 3d view is easier sometimes)? you'll want to be able to view that when you're not upside down because, frankly, its easier, hence being able flip the view.

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forgot to mention that it is for 3d view when you're moving along the track in the editor.

Post June 4th, 2006, 9:13 pm

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Originally posted by SMer

I'm hopin Ole adds an option in the editor for flyers that lets you flip the view so you don't have to edit upside down in certain areas.


Isnt that the same for editing while inverted on any other coaster?

Ive never seen or had a problem with that. Its all the same.


EDIT-

Actually, while in the prone position it would be like editing a normal invert. Then, when "inverted" (flying position) it would be like editing a normal sitdown.

Hows that any different than before?

Post June 4th, 2006, 9:37 pm

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It wouldnt be like editing a normal sitdown...it would be upside down...

Post June 4th, 2006, 9:45 pm
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it might make it easier..... but I was thinking it would be cool if you could rotate yourself in the overhead and side views. So that way you aren't stuck at the one view... obviously you could set yourself back to the original position like in Google Earth, but the options there.

Post June 4th, 2006, 9:58 pm

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^you should be posting in the round 7 no limits draft instead of this [:p]

Post June 4th, 2006, 10:14 pm

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OK, maybe I'm in the minority here, but I *MUCH* prefer the Vekoma flyers to the B&Ms. Batwing was IMHO much more intense and interesting than Superman Flight. OK, the overhead pretzel loop was cool, but after that, just some zig-zags and big turns. Yawn. Vekoma's layout was tighter, faster, had more variation, and nothing on the B&M was quite so cool as going up the lift on your back, then rolling over and diving toward the ground. Freakin SWEET!

I did finally ride "air" at Alton Towers last fall and liked it a lot. Even so, I still prefer the Vekoma layout and flippy trains.
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Post June 4th, 2006, 10:35 pm

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Tatsu owns all flyers though. Dont compare the Vekoma Flyers to the SUF clones...Tatsu is the new comparison.

Post June 4th, 2006, 10:40 pm

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Originally posted by SFMM homie

It wouldnt be like editing a normal sitdown...it would be upside down...


Actually, itll be like designing an Invert all the time - just the horizon changes.

I still dont see the difficulty.

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