Stop puppy mills!

[Coasterkidmwm]

I support animal testing and all of that "horrible" crap. I'd rather have some dumb dog that runs around drooling all day die testing a new drug then someone who lives paycheck to paycheck dying while trying to scrape in some more money to feed his/her family.

When you people buy a dog that isn't a mutt where the hell do you think they come from? Also, you have think about any alternatives to this method. How else are they going to breed them? fence in a plot of magic prairie with a rainbow in them and allow them all to run free and drink from sparkling stream water? At least this isn't a vegan thread.

Originally posted by Real
However, there are a million other things we as humans should be trying to eradicate before we tackle this issue. How about human cruelty such as hunger? How many men, women and childer suffer each day, in our OWN cities and towns from hunger? How many of you have food every single day and dont finish it all, or, throw away food?

Hunger is a big deal to me, far larger than animal cruelty. So much so, while I wont ignore animal cruelty if I see it, its just not a big deal when you compare it to other things that go on in your OWN neighborhoods every day and you ignore it.

The above is quoted for making sense and basically saying what I wanted to say with somewhat more proper English. Fix the goddamned lower income housing sector before you fix animals. If you care so much about everything, how about you work on getting people the hell out of their poverty. The housing sector by where I work is absolutely TERRIBLE. Imagine having to check the front lawn (what front lawn their is) for hypodermic needles and condoms everyday before you let your kids play in it. People do that where I work. I come to work everyday and pick up booze bottles, needles, used condoms, and drug paraphernalia from all over the ground to make a sad attempt at cleaning the neighborhood and so that if the lawn need mowing I won't run over a goddamned needle and make a hepatitis/AIDS missile. Fix people before you fix animals. I absolutely no tolerance for idiots that can't understand this.

[jayman]

you mean drug addicts don't run around free and drink sparkling water under a rainbow?
your picking that shiz up and mowing the lawn is far more proactive than signing any petition.

It's always funny to watch a topic turning into a flaming argument. Animal cruelty is way overrated and absurd in some cases. For example: Here in Joburg if a animal gets killed it hits headline news but when three or more bodies are found lying in a field somewhere the case gets closed a few days afterwards if the murderer is not yet found.

If you support animal testing and what not, that's your decision but if you don't the best thing to do is to not abuse animals yourself. That?????????s the only way you would ever make a difference.

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

I support animal testing and all of that "horrible" crap. I'd rather have some dumb dog that runs around drooling all day die testing a new drug then someone who lives paycheck to paycheck dying while trying to scrape in some more money to feed his/her family.

Please tell me how this has anything to do with this thread. I also support animal testing... animal testing actually has a point. There is no reason to force dogs to live in horrible conditions just because it's easier than not taking care of them.

When you people buy a dog that isn't a mutt where the hell do you think they come from?

Puppy mills? That's why you shouldn't buy purebreds unless you know where they are coming from. Why the hell do people care if their dog is a mixed-breed or is purebred anyways?

Also, you have think about any alternatives to this method. How else are they going to breed them? fence in a plot of magic prairie with a rainbow in them and allow them all to run free and drink from sparkling stream water? At least this isn't a vegan thread.

Are you serious? So what you're implying is that the only way you can breed dogs is treating them horribly?

[Oscar]

cocoa puffs

Woah! Random

[Coasterkidmwm]

It's a bunch of dogs. Who cares? Fix people, the hell with the dogs.

Originally posted by IntaminFan397
Are you serious? So what you're implying is that the only way you can breed dogs is treating them horribly?

Ever notice how abusive guys always have a girlfriend? Well....

Originally posted by CalawayPark

Woah! Random

Wow, WWS goes and makes a perfectly funny comment to lighten the mood, then you have to go ruin it by pointing it out?

[jayman]

i hear that puppies taste good. maybe we can shut down the puppie mills and feed the poor. they aren't pets yet.. they're still livestock.

[Coasterkidmwm]

This is why China is going to be lightyears ahead of us in a decade or so. They've been well on their way with eating puppies.

[jayman]

i never had it, but i imagine it would be good. i like rabbit, and i figure the meat of other smaller mamals has got to be good too.

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

I support animal testing and all of that "horrible" crap. I'd rather have some dumb dog that runs around drooling all day die testing a new drug then someone who lives paycheck to paycheck dying while trying to scrape in some more money to feed his/her family.

When you people buy a dog that isn't a mutt where the hell do you think they come from? Also, you have think about any alternatives to this method. How else are they going to breed them? fence in a plot of magic prairie with a rainbow in them and allow them all to run free and drink from sparkling stream water? At least this isn't a vegan thread.

Originally posted by Real
However, there are a million other things we as humans should be trying to eradicate before we tackle this issue. How about human cruelty such as hunger? How many men, women and childer suffer each day, in our OWN cities and towns from hunger? How many of you have food every single day and dont finish it all, or, throw away food?

Hunger is a big deal to me, far larger than animal cruelty. So much so, while I wont ignore animal cruelty if I see it, its just not a big deal when you compare it to other things that go on in your OWN neighborhoods every day and you ignore it.

The above is quoted for making sense and basically saying what I wanted to say with somewhat more proper English. Fix the goddamned lower income housing sector before you fix animals. If you care so much about everything, how about you work on getting people the hell out of their poverty. The housing sector by where I work is absolutely TERRIBLE. Imagine having to check the front lawn (what front lawn their is) for hypodermic needles and condoms everyday before you let your kids play in it. People do that where I work. I come to work everyday and pick up booze bottles, needles, used condoms, and drug paraphernalia from all over the ground to make a sad attempt at cleaning the neighborhood and so that if the lawn need mowing I won't run over a goddamned needle and make a hepatitis/AIDS missile. Fix people before you fix animals. I absolutely no tolerance for idiots that can't understand this.

Ok first you are an idoit they have dog breeders there is no need for puppy mills.

I do understand this but the fact that im a minor prevents me from doing much of anything im just trying to do the very little i can do at my age. Once i get older and am no longer a minor then i will start fighting poverity and junk like that but do you think a 13 year old is going to be taken serously? thats why i have yet to write to congress or start a fundraiser for stuff like that because no one is going to take me serously.I have tried to get my parents to write to congress or talk to the state but there to lazy to do anything, hell it took them three years to take me to the shooting range. So don't think im dumb for not putting human needs first. If i did theres not much i can do.

do you think a 13 year old is going to be taken serously?

No, that's why I stopped your reading your post at that precise point. I'd also like to point out. It's probably your spelling making you look stupid and not your age.

Ewww, WWS needs to get an air freshener, it smells like pwnage.

Coasterkid, we get it that you don't care if dogs are treated like shiz, or if they're not treated like shiz. Whatever, as much as I disagree with that, it's your opinion. But when you say "how else are you going to breed them", that's just ridiculous. You don't need to leave them in small cages, getting starved and then cutting out their vocal chords without any pain killers because the barking annoys you. Puppy Mill owners just treat them like crap because they don't feel like making any kind of effort to make it at least a decent place for the dogs. You can feed them, and still breed them. You can put them in bigger areas for them to live, and still breed them...

^You think the majority of places in the country DO HAVE bigger areas and fine conditions for the dogs? Yes. There are always a few minority places that treat dogs like shiz. Get over it...

Yeah, those places are breeders. Not puppy mills, which are the few places that treat them terribly. The topic's about mills, not breeders. I'm just saying that the mills don't make any kind of effort to treat dogs well, which could more then easily be done.

[jayman]

that wasn't the point gawdammit.. we see this post and thinking people say well. um duhhh.. where the hell did you think pet stores get all those cute lil' purebred puppies. yeah it sucks but there's more important stuff going on. really. all you have to do is spend more time in the real world..

I find it amusing that bunch of little kiddies fairly new to WWS are running around crying about thes poor little puppies, and all the "veterans" have to knock some sense into your poor, helpless little souls. Signing a petition for dogs isnt gonna help at all....and dont say you're too young to make a difference....thats a bs excuse, everyone can make an actual difference in someway, but an online petition isnt gonna do it.

Poor puppies [:(]

PETA will help them.

Wasn't PETA caught killing the animals they save?

Okay e-man, you stepped out of line. I have been here for about 4 years and never in my life here on WWS have I treated such a caring topic like crap! While yes an online petition will do nothing I still believe dogs have the right to be treated better. Ripping out a dogs vocal cords because you hate barking and you make then breed like no tomorrow is like killing one bird with two stones. Some veterans here have some common sense. Would you like to be treated like that? Seriously.

[jayman]

Originally posted by e-man

I find it amusing that bunch of little kiddies fairly new to WWS are running around crying about thes poor little puppies, and all the "veterans" have to knock some sense into your poor, helpless little souls. Signing a petition for dogs isnt gonna help at all....and dont say you're too young to make a difference....thats a bs excuse, everyone can make an actual difference in someway, but an online petition isnt gonna do it.

i'd sure like to know what's out of line here.. looks legit to me.. [:D]

RRgod- What are you trying to accomplish here? Tell me what your overall goal is. Is it to change his complete outlook on the situation and convert him? If so, that is not gonna happen. Is it to get an appology for what he has said about dogs? If so, dont expect one, just ignore it.

I do not like how he is saying the veterans must nock some damn sense into n00bs. He has a legible point and he is trying to do something about it but now everyone is acting like asses saying its worth nothing. Everything helps a bit and you should give him credit for that.