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Post November 14th, 2009, 11:28 pm

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hey so im trying to get a transition to a turn like this.
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ive followed entrophys tutorials on youtube about drops and stations and stuff
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but im trying to get a smooth transition into this turn. ive tried with single-zone force and curved geometry, but all of the lead outs start to curve either up or the opposite way.

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please can i get some help. this would be greatly appreciated.
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Post November 14th, 2009, 11:43 pm

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Don't have the transition one second long. Have it longer w/ around an 80 degree bank. You might also want to have the orientation as Quaternion.

Post November 15th, 2009, 12:03 am

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ive tried changing time. it only makes the radius larger.
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Post November 15th, 2009, 12:03 am

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Try adjusting the roll setting. Sometimes that makes a big difference in what direction the track is heading in.

Post November 15th, 2009, 12:24 am

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Originally posted by thatoneband777

ive tried changing time. it only makes the radius larger.


What radius?

Well, a better way to do it is have the banking transition be in Multi-Zone force and have the forces start at around two and get up to four and pull into the bank. Because i notice a pump as you start of the positive vertical force.

Post November 15th, 2009, 4:54 pm

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^^^ the radius of the track segment.
and im trying to get a smooth transition into this turn. should i have the normal force at 1? because thats what i have it now.
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Post November 15th, 2009, 5:53 pm

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Here, have the vertical force transition as sextic and subtract about one from the force value. Hope that helps.

Edit:Don't have it at negative one subtract about one from four. And notice how there isn't a pump coming into the positive vertical force. And I actually have the heartline height at 1.3 so don't completely base it off of mine as long as you get the general idea.

Post November 15th, 2009, 6:59 pm

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its an intamin coaster so the heartline should be at .9. that would change the shaping.
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The preface "sex" refers to the number six, and "tic" indicates it is an order of an equation. Translates to "6th order".

Post November 15th, 2009, 7:20 pm

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Originally posted by thatoneband777

its an intamin coaster so the heartline should be at .9. that would change the shaping.
That's why I said use the general idea.

Post November 16th, 2009, 2:13 am

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Yeah dude just keep practicing and thinking about what you'd feel at a certain point in your track. If something doesn't work, modify it and try again. You'll learn through trial and error.

Post November 16th, 2009, 12:58 pm

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^^ thanks. yeah i almost got it down. thanks everyone for your help
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Post November 16th, 2009, 6:03 pm

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Well I see you have gotten more than enough pointers but I couldn't help but notice seeing that you are using Single-Zone force. I wouldn't recomomend using the Multi-Zone tool because It enables you to be more precise about you g-forces. Sometimes by doing that, it can help you get the shape that you want.

Post November 16th, 2009, 6:25 pm

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You don't always need multi-zone force. For that kind of transition, you don't need to but some transitions you do. You still can but the sextic transition work pretty well.

Post November 16th, 2009, 8:12 pm

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I would always use multizone rather than single zone if I were you. Single zone only limits you.

Post November 16th, 2009, 8:13 pm

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Originally posted by devilsrule911

You don't always need multi-zone force. For that kind of transition, you don't need to but some transitions you do. You still can but the sextic transition work pretty well.


multi-zone force does allow for some different track shaping options. thanks though
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