New laptop!

A friend of mine has an acer... It crashes all the time!

I've recently been looking into laptops too. I get paid today and I'm off tomorrow so I wanna go out and look at laptops at Circuit City. Of course, I'd have to use their 3 month payment plan to pay it off. I have a nice laptop picked out and my friend agrees it's pretty good for it's price. Check it out and tell me what you guys think [:)]

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/HP-Pavilion-DV6701US-15-4-Widescreen-Laptop-DV6701US/sem/rpsm/oid/203096/catOid/-12963/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

Looks nice, although it seems a bit steep $735.

Check out this one;

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Toshiba- ... tDetail.do

-better CPU
-better wireless
-bigger hard drive
-lighter
-is actually cheaper if you don't count that other one's mail in rebate (remember mail in rebates can take forever :/)

[Coasterkidmwm]

Originally posted by guitfiddle

gesh, this is all soo stupid! everytime we bring something at mac it's like the witch trails... we like macs cause they do what we want better than pc's

I'm glad you're a better person than me.

Originally posted by guitfiddle
plus it only took me a day to learn how to use a mac, so don't go saying stuff like you know it if you haven't used a mac. And also a $2000 mac has a 2.4ghz dual core, not a 2.0ghz like the alienware.
...Gesh, computers in europe are expensive by comparison

The only thing I've learned from using the macs at the computer lab at school is that I have to constantly save my work every 5 minutes if I try to type a paper because they keep having catastrophic network crashes. These are macs provided by the apple store as demo models to impress people (They HUGE screen ones). However if I type my paper on a discount Dell in my room on the same network no such problems occur.

Ckmwm you are a liar. I own one and I've never had any of these problems that you keep claiming.

[Coasterkidmwm]

You aren't connected to a 13,000+ person university network like I am. The PCs on the second floor work fine but the Mac ones keep losing your stuff when you try to save and crashing.

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

You aren't connected to a 13,000+ person university network like I am. The PCs on the second floor work fine but the Mac ones keep losing your stuff when you try to save and crashing.

I wouldn't doubt that these Macs are probably friggen iMac G4s or something lol... That's if it actually even happens, which is unlikely.

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

Originally posted by guitfiddle

gesh, this is all soo stupid! everytime we bring something at mac it's like the witch trails... we like macs cause they do what we want better than pc's

I'm glad you're a better person than me.

LMAO. God you crack me up. And you give excellent replys to Calaway.

And Calaway, just because your precious little Mac doesn't have problems, that doesn't mean peoples in the real world don't. I get fed up with the Macs at my school. They're recent models too, the school is not money-troubled and was built well within the last 5 years, in addition to the fact that the Mac lab wasn't build when the school was. The Macs there are extremely slow, don't run shiz, and decide with their own damn minds to not feel like opening a program.
That's why I get up and go to the PC Lab, where I can get my computer started in 12 seconds and ready to finish my work. And not lose it like last time.

You people are so full of crap it's not even funny. Your Mac lab most likely DOESN'T have recent Macs and you have no idea what you're talking about. My Mac is extremely fast, runs everything I've put on it and opens every program I've ever tried to open.

And so has every Mac I've used.

[Coasterkidmwm]

But you're at home with a custom order. Most people in the real world don't buy their own computer for a job. They use what is given. Fact of the matter is multiple people have had serious issues running the Apples.

We have these. They don't have the bulbous thing on the bottom like the G4's do. Yes they play music and videos and the like just fine however they cannot stay connected to the network and when you try to save they'll do something that involves people losing their work and swearing a ton. I'm not sure if that's the technical term for crashing but the damn things can't save on a network in my experience in my college.
http://www.cheapest-ipod.com/images/new-imac.jpg

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

But you're at home with a custom order. Most people in the real world don't buy their own computer for a job. They use what is given. Fact of the matter is multiple people have had serious issues running the Apples.

We have these. They don't have the bulbous thing on the bottom like the G4's do. Yes they play music and videos and the like just fine however they cannot stay connected to the network and when you try to save they'll do something that involves people losing their work and swearing a ton. I'm not sure if that's the technical term for crashing but the damn things can't save on a network in my experience in my college.
http://www.cheapest-ipod.com/images/new-imac.jpg

See though, the G5 is 4 years old, that's probably why it seems slow to you. The Mac you sent me was a G5, there have been 2 revisions that looked like that since it, but they had a curved back and the IO went across the bottom instead of upward, and they were much thinner. And as far as I know, isn't that the software running the network's fault? My old school had a Mac lab, and saving to the network was fine, mind you, it wasn't that big, but I never had a problem, ever.

And oddly enough I don't have a problem talking to you about Apple when you're talking to me logically

If you're just honestly having these problems then use a PC! I don't have a problem with you using a PC! I used a PC for most of my life! And Macs were pieces of crap before OS X was released. Thanks to Steve creating NeXT and building the operating system on a Unix core and Apple buying them back to eventually create the operating system that we know and [some love], OS X.

The only time I have a problem is when people bash Apple without any reaaaal reason. Saying " LOLZ I HATE MACS" doesn't tell me that you've ever used one... CKMWM, you're in college and most of them have Mac labs so I believe you, but most high schools don't anymore, unless they're using G3's from like 1999 or something.

[Coasterkidmwm]

They're brand new from this year. The whole downstairs was converted to Mac as part of a product demonstration and an Apple store was added on campus. The the gigantic ones with the huge 24 inch monitor and so far they're completely unable to connect with the network properly so saving or opening a file is hell. Grow a pair.

I usually don't involve myself in the entire 'iCrap' scene, but I must say as well that ALL the Macs at my college were all worthless hunks of junk as well. To the point where hardly anyone used them, unless they had to.

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

They're brand new from this year. The whole downstairs was converted to Mac as part of a product demonstration and an Apple store was added on campus. The the gigantic ones with the huge 24 inch monitor and so far they're completely unable to connect with the network properly so saving or opening a file is hell. Grow a pair.

That's impossible.http://www.apple.com/imac/ They would look like that if they were from this year... or since August of last year.

And how much you want to bet that it's software, not hardware? And are they running Tiger or Leopard?

Maybe they do look like that.

And might I point out Tiger and Leopard are other Mac OSs. Meaning it's still Mac's fault. =/ ouch.

Originally posted by GerstlCrazy

Maybe they do look like that.

And might I point out Tiger and Leopard are other Mac OSs. Meaning it's still Mac's fault. =/ ouch.

... I didn't say that... I know they're Mac OSes, I'm a Mac user... And I asked if it was Tiger or Leopard because there is software that was for Tiger or less that may not work with Leopard, or vice versa.

And he told me what they look like and linked it to me, it was a white iMac G5, which is 4 years old.

Originally posted by Canadmos

I usually don't involve myself in the entire 'iCrap' scene, but I must say as well that ALL the Macs at my college were all worthless hunks of junk as well. To the point where hardly anyone used them, unless they had to.

Same here. The Photography lab has all macs that came out 3/4 years ago. They're thinner than the one Ckmwm has so I guess they're the revised G5s(?) Calaway was talking about. They have frequent network failures. The software itself runs fine, albeit slowly sometimes, and my only MAJOR problem is the most evil one... "Photoshop CS2 closed unexpectedly." Makes me want to shoot myself when a good hour of work goes down the drain.

However, in our Film lab, we have these: http://www.apple.com/imac/
They don't crash at all. Actually, they're amazingly fast reliable. The only problem they have is that they feeze whilst trying to log out if you don't fully quit FinalCut Pro. Everything else works smoothly.

At my school, or mac lab works fine. In fact, it is the PCs that have these network issues. We don't even have very new macs, but they all work smoothly, and are plently fast enough for what we need them to do.

[Coasterkidmwm]

When I said "new this year" I meant that the whole lab was not present last year and it was this year. Don't you think the defense of "oh they sucked total ass 1 year ago but now they're orgasmic" is a childish?

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

When I said "new this year" I meant that the whole lab was not present last year and it was this year. Don't you think the defense of "oh they sucked total ass 1 year ago but now they're orgasmic" is a childish?

I didn't say that, i was wondering because the wireless technology might not have been perfected at the time of release. And Zoozer, I'm happy to see that you're happy with the new iMacs! And CS2 was a flaky program, I know from experience. CS3 runs like butter though!

The white iMacs run slower because

A. They're older, obviously.
B. They've been used more at the school- and most schools have no idea how to run a computer lab, Christ, my old computer tech used to reinstall Windows whenever there was an error. Not to mention schools crowd their computers with useless programs and the like.

The new iMacs run faster because they're newer and the school has had less time to screw them up

The reason that Macs get fooled around with more by computer techs at most schools is because school systems generally support Windows and nothing else, so they go on what they know.

Schools will screw up any computer though. Test out a school computer with a home computer of the same specs and you'll see what I mean

Oh, and Zoozer, if final cut doesn't close after an allotted time limit when the computer is shutting down, the computer does a shut down time out. The reason it does is because if the program is forced to quit in a short amount of time by the operating system it results in fragmented files.

Ever noticed when you power down a Windows machine you get those dialogue boxes with "X is ending..." and a progress bar? That's one of the problems with Windows, for some reason, Windows has trouble quitting some applications correctly, and you have to click "End Now." What that does, is it causes fragmented files on your hard drive, and that's one of the reasons you have to defragment a Windows PC, but you never have to defrag a Mac.