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Post October 18th, 2008, 9:38 pm

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I am just letting everyone know to please support Barack Obama in this upcoming election. He is a change that we need. His stance on the issues rock and his honesty shows his true characters. Despite all the smear-campaigning that the McCain campaign has been doing voters should stay true to the economic crisis going on in the country right now. Barack is an honest and good man, he understands the struggle of many Americans and will do everything he can as president to supress that struggle. If you are not a Barack Obama supporter I understand and hope that you will vote for him. However, I would really just perfer that all of you who are old enough to vote go out and allow your voice to be heard. It does not matter who you support in the election just get out there and vote. (hopefully for Obama) With much enthusiasm I erge you all to make a difference in your own way and VOTe FOR OBAMA!!!!

A CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!!!!

BARACK THE VOTE!!!!

VOTE NOVEMBER 4TH, 2008!!!!

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Post October 18th, 2008, 9:44 pm

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Ugh, do you know why you are really in support of him?

Post October 18th, 2008, 9:46 pm
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i second that
most people know what's fashionable to say, so your post was irrelevant.. what fantastic brand new information have you got that will make people not inclined to do so already vote for the man?

Post October 18th, 2008, 9:50 pm

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Yes I Do. His economic policy is very strong and judging by the situation we're in as a country he could bring us out of a recession faster than John McCain's plan could. Also, his campaign has been a fairly honest one, unlike McCain's mud-slinging, lying, and hate insiting campaign. Barack is a genuine man whose understanding of the economy is key in his success. Barack also has Joe Biden who is renouned for his foreign policy experience. There stance on the war in Iraq falls in line with the views of many Americans including mine!

Post October 18th, 2008, 9:56 pm
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like any socialist his economic policy sucks.
i will agree that he is a genuinely good man, i kinda get peeved when they talk about his retarded tax plan as "punishing success" it's a bad idea, but he's not trying to "punish people"

Post October 18th, 2008, 10:14 pm
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I personally think he has made some very bad decisions in his campaign and that all his talk of change and that he will do this and that is just, well, dreams. An edicated person can quickly see through what he is saying he will do and tell you right off the bat that he can't do it because of the checks and balances that are in place. So a recommendation for the voters, young and old, quit listening and believing all this talk of change. Analize it and compare it to what can really be done. Barrack and McCain are both lying to the public of what they WILL do.

Fact is that it is not what they say they will do, but what they will be permitted to do.
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Post October 18th, 2008, 11:15 pm

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Here is where you have been swindeled by your onw cynasism. If Obama is elected he will be backed by a philibuster of democrats in the congress and house. There will be a system of checks and balances but his policies will not be affected much. Also your belief that his talk of change is just a fecad is flawed. You have an opinion on weather or not his talk of change is true. You have no facts and you obviously don't understand any of the candidates policies. If you want to debate drop the cynical act and bring real facts. This is just hard criticism on your criticism of Obama. Obama's tax policy for example will give a tax break to 95% of Americans, three times larger than McCain's. This is a fact that the McCain campaign has constantly mistated. Also their apparent diversion from the economy is also a dead giveaway of McCain's dishonesty. McCain has said that their goal for the last three weeks would be to divert the attention of the voters from the economy to Barack Obama's character. Don't become so cynical that you write off a candidate because his talk of changing America and the world is to "dreamy". Martin Luther King Jr., John F. Kennedy, and many other positive influential people had a dream and made it a reality.

Post October 18th, 2008, 11:27 pm

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That's the whole point though. With a boatload of Democrats in the House and Congress Obama can try a law for "Wipe your friends ass Wednesday's" and it would get passed. Plus, as jay said, his socialist economy play sucks.

Post October 18th, 2008, 11:30 pm

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Originally posted by jayman

like any socialist his economic policy sucks.
i will agree that he is a genuinely good man, i kinda get peeved when they talk about his retarded tax plan as "punishing success" it's a bad idea, but he's not trying to "punish people"



One thing to combat this whole socialist charge. He is not socialist but highly favors government regulation. Something that is now mandatory because "fat cats" have gone and gotten greedy put this country in the hole with predatory lending practices, and malpractice on the part of CEOs. Obama is not socialist he is concerend with the practices in the business world and proposes that government intervene for the next couple of years until we can get the economy and the rest of the world back on it's feet. And if you want to talk about socialist policies explain to me why John McCain want's to tax employee related healthcare and completely cut hundreds of millions from medicaid. He is also for privitization of social securtiy which is essentially gambling away people's retirement on the STOCK MARKET! Obama is not socialist YOU don't have the facts right. Get them and then make an opinion. Voters need to understand the truth not the false claims of a desperate campaign. (John McCain) Don't even get me started on Sarah Palin cause that is a debate that if anyone challenges me on they will loose miserably.

Post October 18th, 2008, 11:36 pm

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hmmmm im seeing a trip on the ban wagon in the future. this site is about peoples interest and love of roller coaster, not about socialist politicians. And honestly, you coming to this site to rant on about why you love this man so much would turn me away from obama. you, yourself are giving him a bad rep because of people like you coming to a irrelivant site to try and argue about why you think we should do this or that.

Post October 18th, 2008, 11:36 pm

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Originally posted by RRollergod

That's the whole point though. With a boatload of Democrats in the House and Congress Obama can try a law for "Wipe your friends ass Wednesday's" and it would get passed. Plus, as jay said, his socialist economy play sucks.


That is not the whole point at all. You use terms like "Wipe your friends ass Wednesday's" and play into the whole "Obama is crazy and dosn't know what he is doing crap" which is just another way of fear-mongering. With a philibuster congress and house Obama will have an open lane to pass policies that will get us on the right track. On the other hand if McCain is elected than the nation will suffer because congress and the president will be bickering to much to help anybody. Now to address your socialist claims. Obama is not socialist he just highly favor's government regulation. Socialism is in my opinion an extreme and Obama is not going that far with government regulation of SOME businesses. It is needed in this age of predatory lending which still seems to be taking a toll on our country. Obama's economic policy deals with the short term and long term while McCain's policy barely deals with any.

Post October 18th, 2008, 11:41 pm

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Socialism = Government Regulation... Same thing either way you word it. He has said he wants all treated equal, which does mean he will be doing this too all businesses.

Post October 18th, 2008, 11:43 pm

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Originally posted by jcf1

hmmmm im seeing a trip on the ban wagon in the future. this site is about peoples interest and love of roller coaster, not about socialist politicians. And honestly, you coming to this site to rant on about why you love this man so much would turn me away from obama. you, yourself are giving him a bad rep because of people like you coming to a irrelivant site to try and argue about why you think we should do this or that.


No it is people like me who go out there and give Obama a good name. I am concerned about the well-being of the country and hoping that people make good choices. This site is not irrelevant, it is where educated PEOPLE like you and me can make a difference. People on this site are just as important as Allen Greenspan or Bill Gates. Your vote matters just like everyone elses so when you put people on this site in a category and say trying to excite them about Obama is irrelevant you ruin your whole point. No one on this site is irrelevant and I am not ranting I just want to exite. You were making strong points until you basiclly shot yourself in the foot with what you just said. A rollercoaster site like this AMAZING one is just another area where educated people can be influenced to vote in the most important election yet.

Post October 18th, 2008, 11:52 pm

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Originally posted by RRollergod

Socialism = Government Regulation... Same thing either way you word it. He has said he wants all treated equal, which does mean he will be doing this too all businesses.


Okay, now your ignorance is beginning to show.

Socialism=extreme left radical view.

Government regulation for a short period of time to whatch CEOs who put me and your financial life at risk (i.e. the Stock Market)= A president with good judgement.

Pay Attention to my words because I made a key difference between socialism and short government regulation. If you are against stopping companies from scamming millions of people and digging us deeper into the financial pot-hole that we are in now than you probably need to stop debating because you are lacking a key fundamental... Sense!

For the recored: Socialism is a form of extreme government regulation that goes on for EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME. (not a few years) Also it will controls the basic functions of a business something the mild government regulation does not. Obama is not socialist he is ready to stop companies from hurting our futures. The only way we can get out of this hole is mild government regulation and even McCain believes this.

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Post October 19th, 2008, 12:04 am
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No. Obama is not the choice this country needs. If he gets elected not only will we get more of the same but it will be worse. The world would rip him to shreds.

And its not a negative campaign that McCain is running. Obama says ALL McCain's ads are negative. This is not true with his early ads nor his most recent ads. All I here from Obama is negative about McCain.

Even though I am registered Republican I am not happy that McCain is running nor am I 100% backing his VP. However, I know that the two of them have as much experience combined as Obama and Biden. Both McCain and Biden have spent many years in office and both Obama and Palin are far from experienced.

Post October 19th, 2008, 12:07 am

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Originally posted by CoAsTeRkRazY

Barack Obama is the anti christ, nuff said.


This post is reserved for people with educated view points. You obviously have none so please leave.

Thank You.

Post October 19th, 2008, 12:15 am

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Originally posted by Tetsu

No. Obama is not the choice this country needs. If he gets elected not only will we get more of the same but it will be worse. The world would rip him to shreds.

And its not a negative campaign that McCain is running. Obama says ALL McCain's ads are negative. This is not true with his early ads nor his most recent ads. All I here from Obama is negative about McCain.

Even though I am registered Republican I am not happy that McCain is running nor am I 100% backing his VP. However, I know that the two of them have as much experience combined as Obama and Biden. Both McCain and Biden have spent many years in office and both Obama and Palin are far from experienced.



First off Obama is way more favorable among foreign countries than McCain is. Not because they think he is easy but because they feel he has the potential to unite the world. McCain has already stated that he dosn't know that much about the economy. (he said this) The economy is now the most important issue right now. The markets are on a rollercoaster ride that make KingDa Ka look like a kiddie coaster. And McCain dosn't know that much about the economy. Who cut's medicaid and taxes employee related healthcare in the mist of a possible economic washout.

Scenario: If the markets were to crash then banks would loose money. Businesses that have their money in these banks (Almost every business operating in the country) would not be able to make payroll. This means we would not get checks. No one would recieve an income. Not Joe the Plumber or Beyonce. McCain says that he dosn't know the economy that well. Obama does. Who do you pick?

I'll give you a hint, he's not a republican.

Post October 19th, 2008, 12:56 am
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first , who cares what foreign countries favor in our elections. it's none of their damn business. and this stuff about the economy.. these are chickens from the 90's, when "you know who" was president and they have come home to roost.

Post October 19th, 2008, 1:29 am

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Originally posted by jayman

first , who cares what foreign countries favor in our elections. it's none of their damn business. and this stuff about the economy.. these are chickens from the 90's, when "you know who" was president and they have come home to roost.


First please learn correct scentence structure.

Second the statement "who cares what foreign countries favor in our elections" is ignorant and really does not do you any good. There is not point arguing about that because I just assume that you were probalbly caught up in the moment and I hope you didn't mean that. I completely agree that these are old wounds from the 90's that haven't healed. But you make it sound as though it shouldn't matter. We have established that this is indeed an issue that has come back to haunt us but we havn't established who will lead us through the onslaught and end this thing. Barack is the one and though you seem to struggle with the idea of that I am starting to see that you are just cynical against government in general. There is no need to argue with you if your points will just become vague, misleading, and lacking in substance.

For the record: Your "you know who" comment was pretty wrong. hopefully you do know that Bill Clinton gave the country a surplus. And within the last eight years we have taken that surplus to a 10.6 trillion dollar deficit. These are problems that have been ignored long before Clinton was president and these are not just coming home to roost on us but the rest of the world. This would help tie the fact that it is quite relevant that other countries have an opinion of one of our presidential candidates. You don't want someone who will piss Russia or China off now do you. Diplomacy is key in a presidential candidate this is something Obama and Biden have and John McCain and Sarah (I can see Russia from my house) Palin do not.

Post October 19th, 2008, 1:34 am
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Russia and China are superpowers like the US. And we are putting missiles in Poland to keep Russia in check. Dont you think we pissed them off at the end of WW 2? Dont you think the missiles in Poland piss them off? The Cold War never ended buddy.

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One of the major dfferences I've seen between Obama and McCain is that McCain wants to do everything right now. I always hear "Drill now!" and most other things he wants to accomplish sounds like it's coming from impulsive tendencies (this is just an opinion from observations not a right or wrong answer). I always wonder what will happen to the marine life when he goes out and immediately starts drilling into the ocean floor, I mean a lot of his stuff doesn't really sound thought through. When Obama speaks, I usually hear a logical and well thought plan to accomplish his goals. Obama also seems to have better people skills. Take for example the final presidential debate; McCain came off a little bit rude by trying to talk over Obama, and multiple times he wouldn't even try to wait for Bob Schiefer to finish his question to start talking.

But, of course, I can't vote :D Missed it by a year :(

Post October 19th, 2008, 2:05 am

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Originally posted by Tetsu

Russia and China are superpowers like the US. And we are putting missiles in Poland to keep Russia in check. Dont you think we pissed them off at the end of WW 2? Dont you think the missiles in Poland piss them off? The Cold War never ended buddy.


Okay, It's time to end this. You are pesimistic, ignorant, and most of all way to cynical. Your cynacism is blinding you. Yes Russia is pissed off that was the whole freakin point. This is why we need diplomacy something that Barack Obama and Joe Biden have. The Cold war died with the Soviet Union and it will be the next president's job to make sure it isn't ressurected. So here are the facts Obama is not socialist, he has a strong economic policy, and diplomacy is something he would excell in. You have failed to shoot me down on any of these subjects and have simply changed the subject when your cynacism and ignorance was questioned. You are not informed and are easily swayed by things you have probably heard. To all those who I saw who disagreed with me you provided weak arguments and they were easily rebuttled. Obama still stands with a seven point lead and counting so on November 4th suit up president Obama will claim the oval office.

By the way if you didn't know and were wondering I am Sixteen...

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Post October 19th, 2008, 2:11 am

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Originally posted by sports247

One of the major dfferences I've seen between Obama and McCain is that McCain wants to do everything right now. I always hear "Drill now!" and most other things he wants to accomplish sounds like it's coming from impulsive tendencies (this is just an opinion from observations not a right or wrong answer). I always wonder what will happen to the marine life when he goes out and immediately starts drilling into the ocean floor, I mean a lot of his stuff doesn't really sound thought through. When Obama speaks, I usually hear a logical and well thought plan to accomplish his goals. Obama also seems to have better people skills. Take for example the final presidential debate; McCain came off a little bit rude by trying to talk over Obama, and multiple times he wouldn't even try to wait for Bob Schiefer to finish his question to start talking.

But, of course, I can't vote :D Missed it by a year :(


And sad that you can't. I completely agree because this key difference in personality was something I notice immediatly. Obama was cool, calm, and collected while McCain was grumpy and mean. It was obvious McCain couldn't stand being in the same room with Obama. This all ties in to who McCain is and what he stands for. Obama is the one.

Even though I can't vote I do encourage all you out their who can to vote. I may be sixteen but one thing you will not win is a debate on politics with me. Obama is a change we can believe in and this is just a fact. So on that note Hasta Luego! ("See you Later" in Spanish)


PLEASE VOTE OBAMA 08

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Post October 19th, 2008, 2:19 am
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First please learn correct scentence structure.

You lost all credibility just now. It is people like that give Obama a bad name. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that you are also a MAC fan. The kind that is "we're always right no matter what and you're wrong because I said so and you're ignorant blah blah blah"

Just because Clinton gave the country a surplus doesn't mean Obama will. How could you be so ignorant to make that deduction? Who do you think the Clinton politicians favor more? Who is actually getting economical advice from them? Certainly not Obama.

The moronic attitude of Obama ending the war ASAP will drive the country into critical red. Reason being people will be coming back to no jobs, get unemployment, add to the inflation and well could lead to a much worse thing such as deflation. We know how that goes, at least us educated folk though so I wont go into detail.

A filibuster (not philibuster, did you go to school?) congress is the worst possible kind. It's like basically going into a pre-school class and saying, no candy for the kids today and then they all start crying for no stupid reason and wont stop until they get what they want. A filibuster is endless ranting going on, reading from a book to congress, etc, just keeps the person's sessions so everyone else could get bothered and tired and just say yes or whatever to agree to the person causing the filibuster so congress can move on. Filibuster is stupid and should be abolished.

I also assume you know what cutting taxes now would further do to the economy. If not, go take a course in middle school economics. I hate taxes as much as the next guy but look through your sef benefit. "Ask not what your country can do for you but what can you do for your country."

Also your belief that his talk of change is just a fecad is flawed.

*sigh* It is my job to see through the lies because I am one who creates them and fetches them to the general public. I can smell bullpoop a mile away, and yo my friend, stink.

Get educated kid.
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