Arrow coaster's with a cobra roll

Are there any Arrow Dynamics coasters that feature a cobra roll?

I think Drachen Fire did didn't it?

Yup, Drachen fire is the only one I can think of.

I believe Drachen Fire was the only coaster arrow made with a cobra roll at all. Thats what made it so unique (as well as the wrap around corkscrew of course).

What about the Cutback?!! That was cooler than the Wrap Around (though that WAS a sweet cork)

That was a fun ride. Too bad it was that rough...glad I got a bunch of rides in though.

^Agree. It was really unique, a great idea, and I wish Arrow had done more things like it, but it was quite possibly the roughest coaster I've ever been on. I went on three times, and took the resulting headache with a grain of salt.

^umm... Tennessee Tornado anyone?

http://rcdb.com/id534.htm I don't see Cobra Roll anywhere. You must be thinking of a Sidewinder.

That's not I was talking about... I didn't mean the Cobra Roll, I meant the original idea and design...

Oh, I see.

Too bad Drachen fire was scrapped. I bet with a little modern engineering that it could become a class coaster again.

Originally posted by coasterpimp

http://www.coastercrazy.com/users/wws/NoLimitsTrackPackager_v1500_Setup.exe I don't see Cobra Roll anywhere. You must be thinking of a Sidewinder.

Haha, did someone change the link?

it's fixed, you happy?

Drachen Fire was originally suppose to be made my B&M so thats why it has all the stuff B&M would usually put. Arrow sticks to loops and corkscrews, I was just curious to see if Arrow did anything different.

You're right, B&M usually has "wrap around corkscrews" after the lift, along with cutbacks.

I've always heard this rumor, and some aspects make sense, but I've never heard it validated as being a fact as you imply with your wording.

Well I got the info from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drachen_Fire
it may just be a rumor...

I just sent an email to B&M asking if they designed Drachen Fire.

Hopefuly they will reply, or just dance in their piles of money.

[Coasterkidmwm]

Someone had a picture of a letter sign by B&M saying they didn't do jack with Drachen Fire.

Also why the hell would you copy your competitor's design?

yep, its just like BM to make a cutback. no question about it. :/

If you read into it a bit it says Arrow had a different design but was too large so they incorporated some elements from their design into a different layout with some of the B&M elements.

Is it possible that the cutback was made to keep the ride in the area set aside for the ride and send it back towards the station since the ride was going fairly slow at that point?

I read somewhere that there was originally planned to be a train station that went under the cutback or was that idea scrapped as well or am I comletely wrong on my facts too?

I do think that it would have been a very interesting ride to experience at least once though.