"Coaster War" Contest - RESULTS pg10

??????Coaster War?????? Contest


STORY:

It's time to mentally travel back in time to the coaster wars of the 1990's. A small Pennsylvanian hilltop park is looking to break out of obscurity in a big way, like old-fashioned 90's business spirit, by one-upping a big corporate park and their world-record breaking coaster. This park isn't sure exactly what coaster type they want, just that they want to break a world record with it to attract the world's attention. So it's up to you, the designer, to pick a coaster type, break a record, and show the world that you're better than them because you have the biggest coaster... until, of course, another park breaks your record the very next year...



DOWNLOAD THE TEMPLATE HERE:
http://www.coastercrazy.com/track_exchange/detail.asp?tid=15816



RULES PART 1: GENERAL RULES:

The contest template consists of two narrow strips of land along the park's border. The left half of the template is flat, unused land, perfect for a roller coaster. On the right half of the template is a 60 foot drop into a river valley. You may certainly use this land, but there is one minor problem: the park's signature 110-foot ??????Giant Tornado?????? ferris wheel is sitting right in the way. In order to access the right half of the template, you'll either have to have track over 120 feet high, or tunnel under it... your choice.

• You must use one of the approved coaster types and records contained below
• The coaster's track may not cross the red boundaries or the blue boundaries
• Supports and footers can cross the red boundaries (unused park land), but must not cross the blue boundaries (not owned by park.)
• No supports or footers may be placed within the areas marked with a purple ??????x?????? (these are other rides and queue lines, and therefore are unusable.)
• The station building must be completely contained within the area marked with the blue ??????x??????
• No track or coaster supports can come within 10 feet (3 m) of the ferris wheel
• The template can not be moved laterally, and the ferris wheel can not be moved at all
• If you tunnel under the ferris wheel, you must re-support its base, either with a 3ds tunnel or with a steel support structure
• Terrain modifications are allowed anywhere, but keep it simple or it will hurt your budget score
• Your coaster must have a ride capacity of at least 1000 riders per hour
• G Forces will be judged according to each coaster type
• Coaster Budget: $14 million (see below for more info)
• DEADLINE HAS PASSED (August 31 2009, 11:59:59 pm WWSST)
• For this contest, you may submit up to one entry for each coaster type. Send finished tracks to cheetaking@gmail.com or post them on the exchange with a "(Coaster War)" tag, and please post a link to your track in this topic
• Once a design is posted on the exchange, it is accepted as your final design for that coaster type. If you send a track through e-mail, you may re-submit as often as you like.

JUDGMENT CRITERIA:

Unlike the B&M contest, which was all about pacing, originality, and edge, this contest will be judged on a traditional technical/adrenaline/originality scale with all three categories being equally important. You are still encouraged to be original, but company-specific shaping will be more important than in the last contest. Highest point total wins. Judgment as follows:

-10 points for technical
-10 points for adrenaline
-10 points for originality
-Plus 1 point for each degree of difficulty contained in your most challenging broken world record (see rules part 2). Again for clarity: ONLY your highest degree of difficulty will count. All additional records are worth only 1 bonus point.
-Minus 1 point for each million dollars over the $14 million target budget you go.
-If your coaster breaks more than one world record for its type, or breaks one of the overall world records, you will receive 1 bonus point for each of them.


More on budget:
In this contest, each coaster type naturally will have different budget criteria, since different types of coasters are more expensive than others. Each coaster type will have 'reference' coasters attached to them, which are the ones I will use to judge budget. Use them as a reference point. And once again, remember that you will lose 1 point for each million dollars over the target $14 million budget you go. Here are some tips for reducing your coaster's budget:

• Keep your track low to the ground. Tall track means more supports and bigger cranes to hoist it (Hint: use the terrain!)
• Keep your track in or next to flat areas, where construction equipment can easily access it
• Keep away from heavily-wooded areas. Clearing trees takes extra time, and therefore extra money
• Optimize your supports, which will use less steel or wood, and re-use footers where appropriate
• Make the track shorter in length. The less track that is used, and the less area it takes up, the cheaper.

RULES PART 2: COASTER TYPES

In this contest, what you choose to build very well might be just as important as how you build it, so give your coaster type very careful consideration. Since breaking a world record with a GCI coaster would be significantly easier than breaking it with a B&M or an Intamin coaster, each world record will have a degree of difficulty attached to it. The higher the degree of difficulty, the more challenging it will be to meet the land and budget requirements, but also the higher the potential reward is. Which of these types you want to try is completely up to you. You can play it safe with a low degree of difficulty, and focus on the overall ride experience, or you can shoot for the stars with a mega-thriller but risk going over budget. Also, take note that each coaster type does not have the same amount of records, and therefore limits your potential for multi-record bonus points. Needless to say, it's an important decision. Choose wisely!



Definitions: (just to make sure we're on the same page)
Height: how high above the terrain the track's running rails are at a given point.
Drop Length: the vertical displacement from the point where a drop starts going downhill to where it reaches 0 degrees again.
Inversion: a length of track banked at greater than 150 degrees.
The rest are self-explanatory. What follows is a list of all legal coaster types, reference coasters for budget purposes, records that you can break, and a degree of difficulty for each record.


COASTER TYPES / RECORDS: (sorted easiest to hardest)

NOTE: the cost of each of the reference coasters has been converted to US dollars, and adjusted for inflation.

GCII Wood Twister Coaster (2-seat)
Reference: ??????Thunderhead?????? ($7 million), ??????Troy?????? ($5 million)
Height: 106 ft (32.3 m) [Difficulty: -1]
Speed: 51 mph (82 kph) [Difficulty: -2]
Length: 3534 ft (1077 m) [Difficulty: 0]

Gerstlauer Euro-Fighter
Reference: ??????Speed: No Limits?????? ($5.5 million)
Height: 131 ft (40 m) [Difficulty: 0]
Speed: 62 mph (100 kph) [Difficulty: 0]
Angle of Descent: 100 degrees [Difficulty: 0]

CCI Wood Coaster (classic 4-seat)
Reference: "The Legend" ($4 million), ??????Shivering Timbers?????? ($6 million)
Height: 122 ft (37.2 m) [Difficulty: -1]
Drop: 150 ft (45.7 m) [Difficulty: 0]
Speed: 66 mph (106 kph) [Difficulty: 0]
Length: 5383 ft (1641 m) [Difficulty: 1]

Gravity Group Wood Coaster (classic 4-seat)
Reference: ??????The Voyage?????? ($9 million), ??????Ravine Flyer II?????? ($6 million)
Height: 163 ft (49.7 m) [Difficulty: 0]
Drop: 154 ft (47 m) [Difficulty: 0]
Speed: 67 mph (108 kph) [Difficulty: 0]
Length: 6442 ft (1963.5 m) [Difficulty: 2]

Intamin Pre-Fab Wood Coaster (6-seat)
Reference: ??????El Toro?????? ($12.5 million), ??????Balder?????? ($11 million)
Height: 196 ft (59.7 m) [Difficulty: 1]
Drop: 176 ft (53.6 m) [Difficulty: 0]
Speed: 75 mph (120 kph) [Difficulty: 1]
Length: 5383 ft (1641 m) [Difficulty: 1]
Angle of Descent: 77 degrees [Difficulty: 0]

Vekoma Flying Coaster
Reference: ??????X-Flight?????? ($18 million)
Height: 115 ft (35 m) [Difficulty: 1]
Speed: 50 mph (80 kph) [Difficulty: 0]
Length: 3340 ft (1018 m) [Difficulty: 2]
Inversions: 5 [Difficulty: 0]

Maurer S?????hne X-Car Coaster
Reference: ??????X Coaster?????? ($4 million), ??????Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit?????? ($15 million est.)
Height: 167 ft (51 m) [Difficulty: 1]
Speed: 65 mph (105 kph)[Difficulty: 1]
Length: 3800 ft (1158 m) [Difficulty: 2]

Schwarzkopf Steel Looping Coaster
Reference: ??????Mindbender (Edmonton)?????? ($13 million), ??????Mind Bender (SFOG)?????? ($9.5 million)
Height: 145 ft (44.2 m) [Difficulty: 1]
Drop: 127 ft (38.7 m) [Difficulty: 1]
Speed: 60 mph (97 kph) [Difficulty: 1]
Length: 4198 ft (1279.5 m) [Difficulty: 2]
# of Vertical Loops: 5 [Difficulty: 2]

Premier LIM Launched Coaster
Reference: ??????Batman & Robin: The Chiller?????? ($19 million), ??????Flight of Fear?????? ($19 million)
Height: 224 ft (68.3 m) [Difficulty: 2]
Drop: 192 ft (58.5 m) [Difficulty: 1]
Speed: 70 mph (113 kph) [Difficulty: 1]
Length: 2705 ft (824.5 m) [Difficulty: 2]
Inversions: 6 [Difficulty: 1]

Vekoma Suspended Looping Coaster
Reference: ??????Jubilee Odyssey?????? ($25 million), ??????Thunderhawk?????? ($13 million)
Height: 167 ft (51 m) [Difficulty: 2]
Drop: 141 ft (43 m) [Difficulty: 1]
Speed: 63 mph (101 kph) [Difficulty: 1]
Length: 2924 ft (891 m) [Difficulty: 2]
Inversions: 5 [Difficulty: 1]

Arrow/Vekoma Looping Megacoaster
Reference: ??????Viper?????? ($13 million), ??????Tennessee Tornado?????? ($10 million)
Height: 188 ft (57.3 m) [Difficulty: 2]
Drop: 171 ft (52.1 m) [Difficulty: 1
Speed: 70 mph (113 kph) [Difficulty: 1]
Length: 5500 ft (1676.4 m) [Difficulty: 2]
Inversions: 7 [Difficulty: 1]
Highest Inversion: 144 ft (43.9 m) [Difficulty: 2]

Curtis Summers / RCCA Wood Megacoaster (4-seat or trailered 4-seat)
Reference: ??????Son of Beast?????? ($24 million), ??????Mean Streak?????? ($12 million), ??????Hercules?????? ($10 million)
Height: 218 ft (66.4 m) [Difficulty: 2]
Drop: 214 ft (65.2 m) [Difficulty: 1]
Speed: 78 mph (126 kph) [Difficulty: 1]
Length: 7032 ft (2143.4 m) [Difficulty: 4]


B&M Steel Twister Coaster
Reference: ??????Wildfire?????? ($17 million), ??????The Incredible Hulk?????? ($19 million)
Height: 150 ft (45.7 m) [Difficulty: 2]
Drop: 161 ft (49 m) [Difficulty: 2]
Speed: 67 mph (108 kph) [Difficulty: 2]
Length: 4165 ft (1269.5 m) [Difficulty: 3]
Inversions: 8 [Difficulty: 2]
Tallest Vertical Loop: 128 ft (39 m) [Difficulty: 2]

B&M Floorless Coaster
Reference: ??????Kraken?????? ($18 million), ??????Hydra: the Revenge?????? ($13 million)
Height: 168 ft (51.2 m) [Difficulty: 3]
Drop: 150 ft (45.7 m) [Difficulty: 2]
Speed: 70 mph (113 kph) [Difficulty: 3]
Length: 4210 ft (1283 m) [Difficulty: 3]
Inversions: 7 [Difficulty: 2]
Tallest Vertical Loop: 145 ft (44.2 m) [Difficulty: 3]

B&M Stand-up Coaster
Reference: ??????Riddler's Revenge?????? ($18 million), ??????Mantis?????? ($16 million)
Height: 156 ft (47.5 m) [Difficulty: 3]
Drop: 146 ft (44.5 m) [Difficulty: 2]
Speed: 67 mph (108 kph) [Difficulty: 3]
Length: 4370 ft (1332 m) [Difficulty: 3]

Arrow Hypercoaster
Reference: ??????Magnum X-L 200?????? ($13 million), ??????Pepsi Max Big One?????? ($23 million)
Height: 213 ft (65 m) [Difficulty: 3]
Drop: 225 ft (68.6 m) [Difficulty: 3]
Speed: 80 mph (129 kph) [Difficulty: 3]
Length: 5843 ft (1781 m) [Difficulty: 4]

B&M Inverted Coaster
Reference: ??????Alpengeist?????? ($25 million), ??????Raptor?????? ($16.5 million)
Height: 195 ft (59.4 m) [Difficulty: 4]
Drop: 170 ft (51.8 m) [Difficulty: 3]
Speed: 67 mph (108 kph) [Difficulty: 3]
Length: 4048 ft (1234 m) [Difficulty: 4]
Inversions: 7 [Difficulty: 3]

Intamin Mega/Hyper/Giga Coaster
Reference: ??????Millennium Force?????? ($30 million), ??????Superman: Ride of Steel (SFA)?????? ($15 million), ??????Fahrenheit?????? ($12 million), ??????Colossus?????? ($15 million)
Height: 310 ft (94.5 m) [Difficulty: 5]
Drop: 300 ft (91.4 m) [Difficulty: 4]
Speed: 93 mph (150 kph) [Difficulty: 4]
Length: 6596 ft (2010.5 m) [Difficulty: 6]
Angle of Descent: 97 degrees [Difficulty: 2]
Inversions: 10 [Difficulty: 3]

B&M Hypercoaster
Reference: ??????Nitro?????? ($24 million), ??????Goliath (La Ronde)?????? ($16 million)
Height: 239 ft (72.8 m) [Difficulty: 4]
Drop: 219 ft (66.8 m) [Difficulty: 3]
Speed: 80 mph (129 kph) [Difficulty: 3]
Length: 5394 ft (1644 m) [Difficulty: 5]


OVERALL RECORDS:

WOOD:
Height: 218 ft (66.4 m)
Drop: 214 ft (65.2 m)
Speed: 78 mph (126 kph)
Length: 7359 ft (2243 m)
Angle of Descent: 77 degrees

STEEL:
Height: 456 ft (139 m)
Drop: 418 ft (127.4 m)
Speed: 134 mph (216 kph)
Length: 8133 ft (2479 m)
Angle of Descent: 111 degrees
Inversions: 10
Tallest Inversion: 155 ft (47.2 m)



CONTEST PRIZES:
1st Place ?????? Gold contest trophy and 20,000 points
2nd Place ?????? Silver contest trophy and 10,000 points
3rd Place ?????? Bronze contest trophy and 5,000 points



Have Fun, and Good Luck!


THE CONTESTANTS:
There is no limit on the number of people who can join. If you would like to join this contest, simply reply to this topic stating your intent.

1. Stealthrider5583
2. Rolling Coaster
[color=green]3. Jakizle
4. ianko66
5. CKidd
6. GTzeroH
7. Dirk_Ermen
8. griffonluv
9. coasterpimp
10. Sobek
11. TJM94
12. tracksix
13. Onjin
14. guitarplayer673
15. Vid_w
16. Jordz
17. Coasterkidmwm
18. HazBruv
19. schimmel17
20. Jonny Richey
21. hyyyper[/color]


Green = Recieved Track
Orange = Problem with track file
White = Have Not Recieved Track
Red = Dropped Out
= final track submitted


Questions & Answers

If you have any questions you can post them in this topic. I will try to answer your question A.S.A.P. Your question and the answer will be posted under this header.

Q: when you say that the station must be COMPLETELY in the box, is this regarding the sim or editor?
A: The sim. The 'station' in the editor is just the station's track, not the station building.

Q: can we use launches?
A: yes, but they cost about twice as much as lift hills do. You can offset some of the extra cost, however, because launches don't need to go as high.

Q: Are we required to break one of the overall records?
A: No, those are just for optional bonus points. The only requirement is that you break at least one record for your specific coaster model.

Q: How can I tunnel under the wheel if I can't make 3ds?
A:No 3ds is needed. Just lower the terrain and make a trench under the wheel, and then re-support the ferris wheel with NL supports.

[Oscar]

This is CoasterCrazy.com approved!

SAMPLE JUDGMENT:

Just for clarity, here is a sample coaster and how it would be judged:

Let's say hypothetically that our contestant Bob has made an Intamin hyper/giga coaster that is 320 feet tall, has a drop of 315 feet, also a record-breaking descent angle of 115 degrees, and a speed of 95 mph. And it also breaks the length record at 7000 feet. And let's say that it was an incredible coaster that got a 9.5 in all three areas of the T/A/O scale. So, here is how such a coaster would be scored:

First of all, he got a 9.5 in all three of Technical, Adrenaline, and Originality, so Bob starts off with an astounding score of 28.5/30.

Next, I would look at the list and see that the most difficult record he broke was the length record. That record had a degree of difficulty of 6, which means that he gets 6 bonus points added to his score for that. He's up to a 34.5/30.

Next, we would see that he also broke the records for height, drop length, speed, and the angle of descent for his coaster's type, the Intamin Hyper/Giga Coaster. So that means he broke 4 extra records in addition to his base record, which means that he gets an additional 4 bonus points. His score is now up to a 38.5/30.

Next, we see that he not only broke the angle of descent record for his individual coaster type, but also the overall world record for angle of descent. Therefore, he gets another bonus point. His score is now a 39.5/30.

Finally, we consider the budget. And it is all bad news. His coaster is taller and longer than ?????????Millennium Force,????????? it goes through the deepest parts of the terrain, and in order to get those great adrenaline and originality scores, he had to make it above the ground a whole lot more than MF. So I estimate that his coaster will cost around $35 million to build. This means that he has exceeded the target budget by a whopping $21 million. I therefore subtract 21 points from his score, leaving him with a final score of 18.5/30... a disappointing 6.17.

Anyway, I hope that clears things up.

Good luck, everyone!

Originally posted by Oscar

This is CoasterCrazy.com approved!

Yeah, and the ferris wheel has the CS logo in the middle of it.

Yes, all credit for that goes to the CS park pack, obviously...

well duh, not that it really matters.

FYI, remember that this is the 1990s! Some of the coasters you have examples of may not have even existed back then. You should make sure the coasters you use is relevant to that decade!

Quote from contest thread: "It's time to MENTALLY travel back in time to the coaster wars of the 1990's"

What I meant by that was not that we were physically going back to the 90's and its technology... just that the mindset was that of the 90's... that old spirit of one-upsmanship.

However, the topic has been updated now for clarity. The coaster types can't change, though. The Euro-Fighters, X-Cars, and Pre-Fab Woodies are needed to give people a legitimate middle-ground step between the cheap woodies and the monster B&M and Intamin steelies.

[Coasterkidmwm]

So can we only build the ride types you suggested or what?

Also if we can't make 3ds, choose to tunnel under the wheel, and then have a giant land collision because of out lack of 3ds skills will we get points off for it?

Yep... the first rule in the list is "You must use one of the approved coaster types and records contained below"

[Coasterkidmwm]

Well there go all of the cool records.

Since you said 90s.....Any chance I could make a CCIish ride instead of a Gravity Group one and not lose points for it? I really want to do a Excalibur/Silver Comet/Ghostriderish thing.

Meh, didn't see your post before I posted, never mind.

Originally posted by cjd
OVERALL RECORDS:

WOOD:
Height: 218 ft
Drop: 214 ft
Speed: 78 mph
Length: 7359 ft
Angle of Descent: 77 degrees

STEEL:
Height: 456 ft
Drop: 418 ft
Speed: 134 mph
Length: 8133 ft
Angle of Descent: 111 degrees
Inversions: 10
Tallest Inversion: 155 ft

Must I break at least one record for each coaster?

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

Well there go all of the cool records.

lol, like what?

Originally posted by Freddie

Since you said 90s.....Any chance I could make a CCIish ride instead of a Gravity Group one and not lose points for it? I really want to do a Excalibur/Silver Comet/Ghostriderish thing.

Meh, didn't see your post before I posted, never mind.

Actually, when I said Gravity Group I did mean CCI/GG. Feel free if you want to.

Well....CCI rides are far different from GG rides but thanks for the clarification. I'll try that then.

Originally posted by hzgarfield

Must I break at least one record for each coaster?

No. Those are completely optional. You are only required to break at least one record for your individual coaster type.


By the way, is anyone going to join? I've gotten a lot of questions but no entrants yet...

[Coasterkidmwm]

So if I was to make say a Cobb woodie you'd be unhappy and just judge it like a bad GG ride even though it had the wooden 2 seat trains like you wanted?

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

So if I was to make say a Cobb woodie you'd be unhappy and just judge it like a bad GG ride even though it had the wooden 2 seat trains like you wanted?

Yep.
The coaster types I've listed are only of companies that were active within the last 10 years.

Originally posted by cjd

Originally posted by hzgarfield

Must I break at least one record for each coaster?

No. Those are completely optional. You are only required to break at least one record for your individual coaster type.


By the way, is anyone going to join? I've gotten a lot of questions but no entrants yet...

only 10 quota of people can join?

I will join later,because
I need to try it,If it works



And,The Height is?

Highest point to Lowest point
or
highest point to the ground?

Quote from rules: "Height: how high above the terrain the track's running rails are at a given point."

[Coasterkidmwm]

So if the company we want to emulate fits the selected ride style and they accomplished something within the past 10 years we're golden?

Example:
Lets say Cobb built something in 2002. I don't know if they did or not. And Cobb rides happened to run 2 bench PTCS. I don't know if they do or not. Would this then be legit or would you just pretend it's a Gravity Group ride with bad shaping?

Originally posted by cjd

Quote from rules: "Height: how high above the terrain the track's running rails are at a given point."

You mean,some people can play dirty tricks like this?



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(Beaten up by Cjd and another CC members[:D])

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

So if the company we want to emulate fits the selected ride style and they accomplished something within the past 10 years we're golden?

Example:
Lets say Cobb built something in 2002. I don't know if they did or not. And Cobb rides happened to run 2 bench PTCS. I don't know if they do or not. Would this then be legit or would you just pretend it's a Gravity Group ride with bad shaping?

No, no, I never said "if it existed within the last ten years, build it." It's still just the selection of coaster types that I gave.

I just did that to keep a tight focus, and a linear progression from easy coasters to hard ones. I think it would get too messy with a bunch of other types in there.

BTW, Cobb's last coaster design was in 1989.

Originally posted by hzgarfield

You mean,some people can play dirty tricks like this?



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(Beaten up by Cjd and another CC members[:D])

Technically, yes. Although, it will be severely frowned upon, and it really doesn't matter anyway since they will have to pay for that 60 ft hole in the ground, and it ain't cheap.

[Coasterkidmwm]

Okay so basically you could have said "only build the companies I said unless you suggest something I like otherwise you're dicked" and saved me a ton of time, effort, and frustration?

Way to make this allow a deal of freedom