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Originally posted by dac
E-man, your logic is flawed because you say that the majority of the funding on the ?????????war on drugs????????? is aimed at [CENSORED WORD] enforcement and prevention. That is not the case . [CENSORED WORD] is the least of government?????????s problems. Why would they make most [CENSORED WORD] crimes a $100.00 fine if they are spending billions of the enforcement of the drug? One thing I've learned, for a fact, given my job, is that for every [CENSORED WORD] case I see there are 25 crack cases right behind it. The ?????????war on drugs????????? is a war on poverty, not a war on the suburban kids who can pay the fines imposed upon them. Back up your claims that the majority of drug prevention monies are spent on [CENSORED WORD], instead of basing your claims on unfounded presumptions.
Intamin, while I can understand the fact that some heroine users can function in society, you completely ignored the fact that I raised crack as my example. You said, ?????????Every mind altering drug should be legal.????????? That, in my opinion, is an ignorant statement. You brought up Hydro as an example of a drug that is given out like candy. Where is your proof? Hydro takes a prescription to get and thus takes a doctor?????????s examination to obtain. Are there problems with that? Sure. But 97% of doctors will review every bit of information on a patient to ensure their prescription is valid. Most doctors are not going to risk their livelihoods on a junkie looking for pain killers.
Furthermore, you brought up LSD and MDMA. These drugs are controlled drugs because they offer no medical benefit whatsoever. Are they addicting? It depends on what study you read. All we know is that they are useless medically and therefore, in my opinion, must be controlled.
E-man, your logic is flawed because you say that the majority of the funding on the ?????????war on drugs????????? is aimed at [CENSORED WORD] enforcement and prevention. That is not the case . [CENSORED WORD] is the least of government?????????s problems. Why would they make most [CENSORED WORD] crimes a $100.00 fine if they are spending billions of the enforcement of the drug? One thing I've learned, for a fact, given my job, is that for every [CENSORED WORD] case I see there are 25 crack cases right behind it. The ?????????war on drugs????????? is a war on poverty, not a war on the suburban kids who can pay the fines imposed upon them. Back up your claims that the majority of drug prevention monies are spent on [CENSORED WORD], instead of basing your claims on unfounded presumptions.
Intamin, while I can understand the fact that some heroine users can function in society, you completely ignored the fact that I raised crack as my example. You said, ?????????Every mind altering drug should be legal.????????? That, in my opinion, is an ignorant statement. You brought up Hydro as an example of a drug that is given out like candy. Where is your proof? Hydro takes a prescription to get and thus takes a doctor?????????s examination to obtain. Are there problems with that? Sure. But 97% of doctors will review every bit of information on a patient to ensure their prescription is valid. Most doctors are not going to risk their livelihoods on a junkie looking for pain killers.
Furthermore, you brought up LSD and MDMA. These drugs are controlled drugs because they offer no medical benefit whatsoever. Are they addicting? It depends on what study you read. All we know is that they are useless medically and therefore, in my opinion, must be controlled.
I understand you used crack as an example, and my point stands. Responsible use of crack does not lead to physical addiction, physical addiction occurs after repeated use of the drug. Using it once a month for example wouldn't be enough to develop a physical addiction. Unfortunately, MOST recreational drug users are careless, and irresponsible use of just about any drug will sooner or later have a major detrimental effect on the user's life.
As for how many hydrocodone prescriptions are handed out, I don't think you're aware of just how many are issued annually.
The DEA's Sannerud said hydrocodones have become an increasing problem as the number of Americans taking the drug skyrockets. According to statistics from IMS Health, which collects information about prescription drugs, the number of hydrocodone prescriptions rose from about 80 million in 1999 to 100 million in 2002. That is about four times as many prescriptions as are written annually for oxycodone, the active narcotic in the high-profile drug OxyContin.
http://opioids.com/hydrocodone/painpolice.html
Many recreational drugs do have medical benefits. Psychedelics for instance, could be used as an effective method of psychological treatment.
According to Leary's autobiography Flashbacks they administered LSD to 300 professors, graduate students, writers and philosophers, and 75% of them reported it as being like a revelation to them and one of the most educational experiences of their lives. They also gave LSD to 200 clergymen, and 75% reported that they had the most religious experience of their lives.
In the Concord Prison experiment, they administered psilocybin to prisoners, and after being guided through the trips by Leary and his associates, 36 prisoners allegedly turned their backs on crime. The normal recidivism rate of prisoners is about 80%, but of the subjects involved in the project about 80% did not return to prison.
In the Concord Prison experiment, they administered psilocybin to prisoners, and after being guided through the trips by Leary and his associates, 36 prisoners allegedly turned their backs on crime. The normal recidivism rate of prisoners is about 80%, but of the subjects involved in the project about 80% did not return to prison.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Leary
