Does this element look correct?

"They weren't heartlined? Well that explains why the damn things hurt so much!"

To which you replied: "^^ they were made around the heartline....."

I'm definitely not taking that out of context, so I'll leave it at this:

WTF are you talking about? lol

i meant that the heartline was the horizontal pole that the track rotates around.

[slosprint]

Then that isn't a heartline. in order for there to be a heartline the track must rotate around the upper chest area of the riders.

Slc's arn't painful, absolutely stunning piece of engineering.

[slosprint]

I don't think any ride is actually painful, some are more uncomfortable than others, though.

well what about superwirbel in the holliday park...this coaster is very painful...in the corks you hit your head 10 times

Which head?

[Dirk_Ermen]

Originally posted by IbanezCoaster

well what about superwirbel in the holliday park...this coaster is very painful...in the corks you hit your head 10 times

Don't be a baby. I've ridden superwirbel also a lot of times and it's not that bad as you say so. The corkscrews are actually the smoothest part of that ride! Or is your head made of rubber? Then I can understand that your head bounces a couple more times instead of only once at the entrance of those corks.

^hmmm ok then I'm false...i was 10 when i rode thiscoaster the last time...my head wasn't the biggest when i was 10 so...---> it bounces

...smooth. [|)]

[Coasterkidmwm]

Is this supposed to be a flying coaster?

Originally posted by slosprint
By the definition of heartline that is not heartlined

I took absolutely no time to shape this, but I am trying to prove a point.

Newton "heartlines" your rides, however, when the correct forces are not involved, the heartline is not straight. Realize that when a perfectly flat heartlined barrel roll is created, there are strong lateral gs on each side. Therefore, when you make the ride have the forces you want the heartline would not be straight.

Perhaps, Vekoma is doing the same thing. Maybe, they want a certain amount of force aplied so they do not make the heartline straight.

Yes, I am aware that there is no relation to the elements we are looking at but the point I am making is that they don't want to heartline it so that they can get the forces they want.

Just a point I thought to throw out there.

The only way we will know if its heartlined or not is if a member of the vekoma design team tells us. Knowing them (professionals) id imagine they would heartline it, it seems like a no brainer. But people do more stupid things that astound us everyday so you never know.

Technically, "heartline" is exactly what is sounds: the "line" (in this case, more like the "path") that the rider's heart follows. Generally, it is used to reduce or eliminate lateral G's during banking transitions. It is the point at which NoLimits measures forces in rides, so while a ride may not look "heartlined", it still may be. Observe most B&M inverts' wingovers. The track doesn't appear to rotate around a fixed point below it, but in reality it does. This is sort of hard to get a grasp on, but you have to think of the heartline as the "original" track before it's put into AHG. In my opinion, it's entirely possible that Vekoma SLC's are heartlined, just in a way that we don't expect.

Well, this post didn't turn out as good as I had hoped. Please forgive me for any rambling - I think there's a lot of it in there...

[Coasterkidmwm]

Jesus christ you people can make up a load of BS and ramble on about it forever.

http://www.rcdb.com/770.htm?p=1124
http://www.rcdb.com/1681.htm?p=14976

The train stays in a line, thus it is heartlined. That's the prototype model above, and one of the newer supposedly smooth SLC's below it. If anything it looks like they twist their half loops slightly before rolling over and they just twisted it a bit less on the newer designs. If anything I'd call the older SLC's an exercise in bad banking at the most. Ta-daaa.

[slosprint]

My first post was completely wrong then, sorry for the misinformation lol. after that I guess I was just trying to explain that you couldn't have a perfectly straight track spine and still have a heartline...