roll over vs cobra roll

I personally love the roll over element, it is graceful, smooth, more disorienting, and natural ,

the cobra roll is an interrupting kind of element , it just isn't very fun to do a cobra roll vs a roll-over

and i am a bit surprised that B&M makes sooooo many cobra rolls when their coasters are usually graceful and fairly elegant and the cobra roll itself seems to simply be a disruptive "asymmetrical" ( discursive , un-elegant ) feeling

maybe it isn't as much of an eye-candy piece for the parks but i do feel like its a much better element

[slosprint]

... "Roll Over"? do you mean zero g roll or barrel roll or am i missing something?

Half loop, full cork, half loop.

I stand completely on the other end! I love cobra rolls... B&M does a great job with these. Plus, In my eyes its a better reverse direction change then an actual turn.

Originally posted by slosprint

... "Roll Over"? do you mean zero g roll or barrel roll or am i missing something?

maybe he meant to say "wing over"

Well, B&M only has rough Cobra Rolls on Inverts. Otherwise they are "graceful," as you said.

[Coasterkidmwm]

He means what vekoma calls the thing all the standard SLC's do as the first two loops. Also what Xpress does as its first two loops.

Cobra Roll.

Roll Over's are rough and mostly only done by Vekoma. When B&M do Roll Over's [Medusa @ SFDK] They look unaesthetic and stupid.

[gouldy]

^ yeah, that element on Medusa looks very ugly. I can imagine it feels better to ride than the vekoma ones though, so I guess there is a trade off.

I thought it actually looked cool on Medusa, since it's the only time B&M used that element.

[slosprint]

The reason it's the only one is because it's so ugly.

[Coasterkidmwm]

They could make another one that didn't snap 3 goddamned times.

Any standard Vekoma SLC is not graceful... nor attractive, fun... Painful yes!