yeh, ive buit a couple others, not completely done, but eberytime i oopen it, it works fine. I don't know if you tried it but when i try it in the simulator, it won't work either. Right now, i'm trying to rebuid it so i can post it for everyone. Luckily, i save as something else with the 2 vert. and 2 hotrizont supports, but all the work after that is gone. I emailed the people at NL this morning so i will see what they say.