What should Cedar Point's next coasters be?

As has been pointed out, Cedar point doesn't really have room for any new coasters.

However, certain rides could be removed to make way for the next generation of CP coasters.

For example, Mean Streak is widely despised, and doesn't appear to have much airtime. Why not through it out and put in a GCI, Gravity Group, or Intamin Woodie?

Gemini doesn't look great either: not very smooth.

Finally: Corkscrew and Iron Dragon could be torn down assuming the nostalgia isn't too great. Without them taking up space, their area,as well as parts of MF's island, and possible some of the space inside TTD's huge oval layout, could be used for one or two really good coasters.

So, what should Cedar Point do?

Tear down Son of Beast, scrap Maverick, and put Son of Beast in its place.

built a coaster that launches you to Canada and back.

[gouldy]

Never really studied Cedar Point closely enough to know, but are they unable to build out over the water? I know that alot of the land has like hotels and a road and such around it at the water side, but do they not own any construction rights or anything over at least some parts of the water?

Originally posted by dcs221

Tear down Son of Beast, scrap Maverick, and put Son of Beast in its place.

Unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful

[gouldy]

IMO, Mean Streak could go, but I think that's really unlikely. And even if they did tear it down, Kinzel probably wouldn't build another woodie in its place. He hates them for some reason. Of all the coasters you mentioned, I think the only one that they would consider taking out is Iron Dragon, seeing as how just about every Arrow suspended coaster in existence is going nowadays.

Corkscrew is not going. It is too iconic. That double-corkscrew over the midway is probably CP's most-used iconic photograph.

Gemini is not going either. It is also a huge piece of CP history, and an iconic one-of-a-kind coaster. And it is not in any disrepair whatsoever. It is actually still very smooth, and has some legitimately good drops through headchoppers, plus the whole hand-slapping between the trains thing. Great fun!

Here's how I see it:

COASTERS CP WOULD NEVER DEMOLISH:
-Magnum X-L 200 (ACE Coaster Landmark)
-Raptor (way too popular)
-Millennium Force (way too popular and iconic)
-Corkscrew (too iconic)
-Blue Streak (too iconic)
-Gemini (too iconic)
-Maverick (it's Kinzel's coaster)
-Top Thrill Dragster (too popular and iconic)

COASTERS THAT CP PROBABLY WOULDN'T DEMOLISH:
-Wicked Twister
-Mantis
-Wildcat (only because nothing else could fit in its footprint.)
-Mean Streak (A Texas Giant-style treatment is possible, but I doubt they'd tear it down completely.)

COASTERS THAT COULD LEGITIMATELY BE REMOVED, BUT PROBABLY WON'T:
-Jr. Gemini
-Woodstock Express

COASTERS THAT CP COULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER REMOVING IF THEY NEED EXTRA SPACE:
-Cedar Creek Mine Ride
-Disaster Transport
-Iron Dragon



As far as building new coasters, don't get your hopes up for anything soon. With Six Flags still collapsing, and Paramount under CP's belt, the coaster wars are all but over. Because of this, CP doesn't have to build anything new to stay relevant, which means that it might actually be an unwise business decision for them to build anything new right now.

But once they do, I've always been a fan of the idea of moving the parking lot to the mainland and taking everyone across the causeway by tram. This would free up a whopping 64 acres of space to build new attractions on. Either that or get rid of Disaster Transport, which is a prime space-stealer that is keeping them from building all the way to the southeast beach.

And yes, they can and have extended the penninsula farther into the lake before. The only reason they wouldn't rely on that is because it costs a lot of money to bulldoze the perimeter parkway, the fence, and the train, create all of the new land and reinforce it from wave erosion, and then re-build all of them.

Build a huge terrain jet coaster.

I have three choices, in order.

Mean Streak - Texas Giant Treatment

Something Modern like a Eurofighter or launched coaster.

Tear down distaster transport and replace it with a GCI.

[Coasterkidmwm]

Originally posted by gouldy

Never really studied Cedar Point closely enough to know, but are they unable to build out over the water? I know that alot of the land has like hotels and a road and such around it at the water side, but do they not own any construction rights or anything over at least some parts of the water?

The Great Lakes are capable of making 20ft walls of ice and other fun stuff like that during the winter, which is why nothing but concrete blocks are built out into the lake lol.

People forget those lakes have sunk oil tankers. They're not to be underestimated.

Also as far as the space saving Eurofighter and all of that, I don't see them building one unless it's larger in scale than Speed at Oakwood and runs like 7 trains at once. Too many fat people in the midwest to run 7 trains properly.

TEAR DOWN SON OF BEA-MEAN STREAK!!![:D]

Honestly.
Couldn't give the slightest love what they got. They don't need any more coasters. I think they have enough.

I highly doubt they would ever tear down the Gemini because it is actually actually really fun. But yea Texas Giant Treatment seems the best idea.

Originally posted by ProZach626

I have three choices, in order.

Mean Streak - Texas Giant Treatment

Something Modern like a Eurofighter or launched coaster.

Tear down distaster transport and replace it with a GCI.

Do all 3 of those. Lol. They could givee MS the TG treatment, tear down DT and put in a GCI, and then maybe stick a Eurofighter somewhere.

[Coasterkidmwm]

Then they could be the park with the most mine trains if they already aren't.

Mean Streak (1), Gemini (2), and Cedar Creek Mine Ride (1) adds up to 4 mine train style rides lol.

Also as far as the "tear down Disaster Transport" thing goes, do you people not realize that family rides are important? If there is one thing this park does that lots of other parks don't do is have a good collection of rides of varying intensities.

It's nice that they don't do the Six Flags philosophy of "make a bunch of 10ft tall shitty rides, call it the family collection, and then be done with it".

Disaster Transport, Iron Dragon, Wildcat, and the Cedar Creek Mine Ride personally I feel are a great alternative to the super small kiddie poop places like SFMM seem to encourage proliferating.

KILL MEAN STREAK


and whoever says Gemini should go, love you. Gemini is one of the greatest coasters of all time.

forget all that, just get a wackyworm and be happy. thats my opinion

First of all, Mean Streak is a Wooden Coaster, not a Mine Train. Just like Texas Giant was a wooden coaster.

Gemini can't go, it was a world record holder when it was built and we have lost too many legendary coasters already.

Not too many coasters at the park are suitable "building blocks" for those who are new to roller coasters or are trying to get over a fear of them, Cedar Creek Mine Ride, Iron Dragon, and Corkscrew are excellent stepping stones for those just starting out who aren't yet ready for more intense rides. Also Corkscrew is a legendary coaster too.

Disaster Transport and Mean Streak are my two options for removal if it comes to that, but there is still plenty of room to build new rides. For those not from the area, CP owns rediculous amounts of land that is under utilized or can be assimilated into the park itself. There is room to extend the boardwalk area by Wicked Twister for a really nice out and back twister as well as along side the Magnum. Also moving Calypso would provide space for a good compoact style coaster or nice spinner.

There are lots more options this is just off the top of my head.

Gemini, no way in hell would anyone want take down that classic.

Cedar Point has plenty of room left on the beach where a compact, but good wooden coaster could be built, but preserving the space and sights of the beach is probably too important to them. IMO a wooden coaster would look decent on the beach, similar to how many rides have been done in the past such as various Cyclone rides but they must have their strange reasons to seem to refuse to build anything there.

Disaster Transport is the only indoor ride there and is actually a bit fun. Removing it wouldn't free up all that much space. The obvious choice is to take down Mean Streak. I don't think a re-tracking would save it; it should be replaced with a GCI. Of course, Cedar Point wants to maintain their 17 coasters number and not spend millions just for the number to stay the same and under their current management they still won't give a rat's ass about having a decent wooden coaster.

I think Cedar Point will milk Millennium Force, Maverick, Top Thrill Dragster, and the little ride they build every year for the next 10 years. Then, I believe, they will tear down a coaster or several coasters and replace it with a new coaster. Thats my outlook on it.

[slosprint]

I think they will take off the top of TTD, add some straight track, then replace the top just so they can claim another record.

I pray Iron Dragon dosent go, I loved that ride so much, especially that helix over the lake that was the best! Corkscrew is a classic no frills looper. It still thrils even if it has a smidge of headbanging.

In case you dont know, last july, I went to CP with fraroc, we had an absolute ball and we cant wait to go back next year.

Originally posted by slosprint

I think they will take off the top of TTD, add some straight track, then replace the top just so they can claim another record.

Yeah, right. They would have to speed up the launch for it to clear the taller top hat, and that would increase the Gs. I doubt it would happen.

What about moving Wicked Twister inside TTD's layout? That would free up even more space for a beach woodie.

Another idea could be building a vertical lift for some coaster onto the side to TTD's huge support structure. Think Fahrenheit, but perhaps as tall as 200 feet.

OK, what? Are you seriously saying that?

Originally posted by slosprint

I think they will take off the top of TTD, add some straight track, then replace the top just so they can claim another record.

That was basically my instant reaction to when KK replaced TTD for the world record.

The accel G's would be safe enough actually; the launch run can be slightly extended and it only needs to go 8 extra mph. They may not be safe for raising arms up on for everyone, but it'll be fine if riders are seated head back and arms down. (Like how they currently instruct riders to sit and no one follows them due to lack of actual necessity to do so.) The positives however, may get pretty intense.

Nonetheless, it's a perfectly appropriate way to retake the record and doing so would really demonstrate the little it means to have the world's tallest and fastest coaster. Of course, SFGAdv would probably be butthurt about it and do the same thing to KK.

Of course, Cedar Point actually needs a good wooden coaster other than Blue Streak and that's really all there is to it. They still have enough room so they don't even have to touch MS which they have refused to do time after time. (Except to put out that fire.)