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Post October 18th, 2010, 5:31 pm
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Hey, can any body help me shape/improve my B&M hill...

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Post October 18th, 2010, 6:28 pm
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1. Make it steeper.
2. make the forces around -.1 more on top of the hill
3. post results if something is still wrong.
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Post October 18th, 2010, 7:29 pm

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Honestly, I think it looks pretty good. I suppose a bit steeper wouldn't hurt, but you have the general shaping down pat.

Post October 18th, 2010, 7:41 pm
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Nah, B&M hills are less circular.
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Post October 18th, 2010, 8:13 pm

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I disagree. I feel that boneplaya is right. The steepness is fine if not over done because it looks like the angle is making it seem less rounded and steep. Considering the angle I think I'm seeing at, this looks good. I think you're wrong that it is too circular.

Post October 18th, 2010, 9:12 pm
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well, i made it a little steeper and made the g's about -0.300 on the top.
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Post October 18th, 2010, 10:48 pm

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The hill looks fine, only thing I have against it is it needs to be more parabolic. It's a bit sharp at the top. All I would suggest would be to lower vertex of the hat, and round out the sides a little more.
So, my friend came up to me the other day and asked if I wanted a frozen banana, and I said no, but I want a normal banana later, so... yea.

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Post October 18th, 2010, 10:52 pm

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hmm...in all honesty, I'd make the G's at the top a little closer to 0. Maybe -.1? It's a subtle difference, but it might make it a bit more realistic.

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I would say around -0.5 to be honest. It's just the front car that has a little pop of air, and then rest of the train catches up.
So, my friend came up to me the other day and asked if I wanted a frozen banana, and I said no, but I want a normal banana later, so... yea.

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Post October 19th, 2010, 8:02 am

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I'm sorry, but -0.5 on a B&M does not happen in the middle of the train. It's about 0.

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I never said it did happen in the middle of the train. The weight of the train would reduce the forces from -0.4 or so to 0 G's once the front car hits the vertex of the hat. It's just a suggestion to get your hill shaped a little better.
So, my friend came up to me the other day and asked if I wanted a frozen banana, and I said no, but I want a normal banana later, so... yea.

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Post October 19th, 2010, 11:59 am

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The transition from the Positive to the airtime is too long. They should be around 0.8-1.3 seconds, depending how wide/high you desire.
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Post October 19th, 2010, 12:05 pm

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Does it really matter that much? Its a hill on a roller coaster. It looks close enough. Don't waste your time on trying to be perfect, to where you lose all enjoyment. I'm sure every one of B&M's hills isn't exactly alike. Either way, this is your roller coaster, not B&M's.

Post October 19th, 2010, 12:10 pm

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^ You haven't been here long have you...?
So, my friend came up to me the other day and asked if I wanted a frozen banana, and I said no, but I want a normal banana later, so... yea.

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Post October 19th, 2010, 12:14 pm

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Originally posted by Flickstah

^ You haven't been here long have you...?


Apparently he joined on June 30th this year, so he should have learned by now [lol]
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Post October 19th, 2010, 4:34 pm
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Originally posted by ProZach626

Does it really matter that much? Its a hill on a roller coaster. It looks close enough. Don't waste your time on trying to be perfect, to where you lose all enjoyment. I'm sure every one of B&M's hills isn't exactly alike. Either way, this is your roller coaster, not B&M's.

if i dont do that then this will happen...http://www.coastercrazy.com/track_exchange/detail.asp?tid=16986

Post October 19th, 2010, 6:18 pm
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Originally posted by Flickstah

^ You haven't been here long have you...?


Neither have you.

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Originally posted by austinjb555

I'm sorry, but -0.5 on a B&M does not happen in the middle of the train. It's about 0.


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Post October 19th, 2010, 6:31 pm
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^^way ta fkin bump my topic...jk, but Flickstah's been here longer then you

Post October 19th, 2010, 6:35 pm

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I think I've been here a little while longer than you. :D
So, my friend came up to me the other day and asked if I wanted a frozen banana, and I said no, but I want a normal banana later, so... yea.

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Post October 19th, 2010, 7:18 pm
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Aren't you like 17?
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Nope
So, my friend came up to me the other day and asked if I wanted a frozen banana, and I said no, but I want a normal banana later, so... yea.

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Post October 19th, 2010, 9:51 pm
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From what I see, B&M hills are (very close to) perfectly parabolic. If you know newton well enough,you would know that if you sustain 0 gs, you will get a perfectly parabolic hill. Because at perfectly 90 degrees, you have 0 gs, so if you have zero gs and are not quite vertical, you will need more than that to become vertical because zero can get you extremely close but not quite. And, the radius is tightest at the apex and slowly increases s it goes to either side. That is excluding friction which is not much of a factor at all. If you put friction to zero, you could make an equation out of the parabola that is created from you setting the value to zero gs and continuing. Just try to keep the g at zero and you will have decent shaping (considering you mess nothing else up).

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Originally posted by Flickstah

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I think I've been here a little while longer than you. :D


Me thinks you joined at around age 9 or 10 which is super illegal.
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