Invisible track? (perhaps another improvement?)

Hi there!

I don't think it's possible but.. is there a way to make our track invisible? Or just a portion?

What the purpose?

To do something like the pursuit in Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom, you know, in the mine, while the wagon is jumping from a track to another one..

Or to make a 'free fall', if I can name it like this..

Do you see what I mean?!??

I see what you're getting at, but I'm too new to NL to know if it's possible

I'm guessing there's got to be some way to create custom track, seeing as you can edit just about everything else in the game...

Nope, there's no way to do transparent track, and there's no way to do it in the real world either.

Of course, this is not for a real coaster..

In real life, I suppose they could paint the track to blend with its environment, but overtime, the paint would wear off on the 3 side the wheels rub on.

Yes, yes yes.. but it's just to.. create something.. unusual and more.. thematic.. funny.. and.. unseen..

Or they could make the track out ofglass or some other material and heavily support it.

glass? No way! But Corsaire, I can see what you are saying, but is it to try to simulate like a jump to another track or something?

IntaminFan397, this is exactly what I mean (remember this passage in Indiana Jones? )

Or in this 3D ride (3DS like movie with moving seats to produce the impression of riding), this roller coaster on an asteroid, at some places, the track is broken, you're falling and catched by a laser beam.. to finally land on a track and finish the course..



(Yes, I know, I'm crazy, I know.. )

ok, thats what i was thinking, but then why are ppl saying that it woulnt be realsitic? of course its not, but they dont have to point it out for no reason at all.

To be honest, I don't think it's that unrealistic. It wouldn't have to land dead on the tracks - lemme try and explain.

Surely you've seen the Avalanche in Blackpool? It starts on standard track on the lift hill, then slides down a half-pipe style track, before levelling off and returning to standard track. If this coaster was to build up enough speed, then hit the half-pipe style track, then make the jump (landing back on half-pipe style track), then it *could* possibly pull off a trackless jump.

I know it would break just about every safety rule, and most likely common sense rule, in existence, but what the hey? It'd be fun

No, i don't know the Avalanche at Blackpool. But think of a track that has wheels on three sides. Imagine that flying off the track and landing PERFECTLY on another track. That would be VERY unlikely, and maybe impossible.

it is impossible because there is a difference in weight on each train, and still, there is the difference in winds, drag from beginning of the day to end, it would just be too dangerous to do. We will probably never see a coaster that does that.

It isn't realisic, but it isn't impossible because about.01% of the time IF you have the ride set up properly, it will make it. But the things that cjd mentioned were what it makes it unrealistic. But what i am saying it is possible, but only that VERY small percent.

Glass wouldn't work for the sole reason on heat. When a train runs on track it heats the track up and glass may eventually melt. However it isn't totally impossible. I have read articles about scientists creating transparent alluminum. It looks just like glass, has the strength of alluminum, and is very durable. I don't ever think it will be used probably because of cost and steel remains MUCH stronger.

Now to the topic on hand.

Having a "jump" on a coaster is both unrealistic and realistic. Its unrealistic for saftey standards. The trains would have to be specially designed for it. You can't just take a modern coaster train and make it jump and somehow land well. Besides having a whole train jump is a saftey hazard, having one car jump, thats a different story. I CAN see a ride that has jumps in it happening. However it ISN'T a roller coaster. Now who do you think would try and design a ride that has a jump in it??? My guess on who would pull it off would be the Disney Imagineers. Think about it, Disney is known for their highly advanced ride systems. They have experiance in designing muliple different types of rides. Take the GM Test Track for example: those cars are advanced and designed to be versatile. I'm not saying the test track cars would be good, but I'm saying the ride system they are based of off could be good. Have an offroading vehicle like an Hummer or Land Rover (anything designed to go fast off roading) turn it into something that can hold 6 or more people, put a computer system in there that measures pressures on different parts of it, have some good shocks and you got yourself a good vehicle to do some jumps in. Have the vehicle follow a track in the ground via similar system of test Track, have it speed up when it hits a jump, when it lands SAFLY it automatically serches for where the track may be, it makes adjusments, could be slow down, could be turn a little bit. Then it rolls back onto the track. Bada-bing, bada-boom, you got yourself a world first ride.

Jumps arn't totally impossible, nor are they fractionally possible. The liklyhood of one being on a roller coaster with a train a few cars long is unlikly. The ride would have to have 2 different types of wheels to work and you would need a way for it to work consistantly with high persision and accuracy.

Thats just my thoughts on this

Well, since y'all ain't seen the avalanche what I said is pretty much irrelevant.

If you wanna look into it, then check out most shots of the big one. The avalance is the big white one, looks almost like a tunnel on most shots, but it actually like a half-pipe, with the train sliding down the center, not actually attached to any rails (until it gets back to the station).

You mean a bobsled coaster? I'm just guessing. but that would be kinda easy to make the jump, but it would probably hurt if you dropped a lot from one track down to the other.

that's actually not a bad idea about the off-road style vehicle. Maybe something like that is possible. However, there is zero chance that we will see a traditional steel-tracked, polyurithane-wheeled coaster do it.

Hmmmmmm. Combining it with the idea behind a log flume then?

Have the coaster jump, land in water and onto some sort of conveyor belt that'll bring it back onto standard track.

The water would help to cushion the blow when it lands. As long as the designer kept their eye on the vertical g's during the jump it shouldn't be too harsh a landing. Some form of suspension would still be necessary though, I believe.

As I stated before, a full train WOULD NOT work. Take for example, in RCT ever build a launched coaster just to see it crash??? Well having a train would act similar. There would be way too much stress on the connectors, plus it would be more drag in wind, would need to go faster to get farther. A suspension would definatly be needed, and polyurithan wheels probably would break easily, so rubber I guess would be the way to go. Roller coasters are never going to be able to jump, that job is for specialty rides.

Gentlemens, all your ideas are good, yes, of course, if this style of coaster would exist, I'm also thinking that one car (and not a full train) would jump at once..

You're all right..

Anyway, thanx!

Hmmmmmmm.

How about if we were to combing standard and hanging coasters?

It could have a set of wheels on the top and bottom, and switch between the two at various times to give the impression of flying through the air?

If it was done right, it could be pulled off...

This option would be nice too..

You could avoid accidents by having a kinda cone to guide the wheels to the track, possibly having catches to engage / disengage wheels once they get onto / off each piece of track.

Imagine it dropping down a steep hill on standard track, then just before it reaches the bottom moving over to overhead track, then moving onto standard track as it hits the up-hill.

Is it just me that thinks that'd give a cool sensation?

Hum.. give me 30 sec'.. (closing my eyes.. mmmm.. mmm.. .. .. bang.. ow.. yes, definitively.. when are they building one?