Oscar Farted in Siberia

[Coasterkidmwm]

http://www.independent.co.uk/environmen ... 76134.html

You should have passed on the bean burritos

These are all over though. Is it just that many of them were under the ice and didn't know about it?

Also, since those usually have direct ties to deep within the earth, who's to say the release of gases isn't helping melt the ice caps further? Normally those gases are released from superheated springs right?

[Coasterkidmwm]

It was vent diameter that was a concern. More poop being thrown at the fan than previously though.

will it kill me in my lifetime, no
so do i care about the world after my life ends, a little
is global warming a myth, YES
is this norma, YES
is it just another way that the goverment can make an excuse to rise tax's, YES

[Coasterkidmwm]

Originally posted by gazag

is global warming a myth, YES

I'm sure everyone would love to hear how the laws of chemistry and physics don't exist anymore to suit your "opinion" based on information and processes you haven't seen.

This kind of thing pisses me off because you have no understanding of glacial mechanics, past glaciations, past conditions, or any relevant information related to this topic and yet you have it all figured out with an "opinion" because some dipshit political correspondent on TV said something isn't true who also has no idea what is going on.

It's similar to creationist logic. It's that bad. It's like going to a quantum physics conference and saying CERN data is a lie. You know just as little about quantum physics, and walking in snow or seeing a picture of a glacier doesn't make you a world expert.

[gouldy]

"Is global warming a myth, yes"?

Gary, are you joking with this? That's like saying; "Is the water cycle a myth, yes". Global warming or cooling is a natural process that can be sped up or slowed down by what the inhabitants of the planet do with the planets resources. Humans happen to do some pretty bad stuff, which tends towards speeding up the planets current tendency of warming. This is a simplified version of the science, of course, but global warming is as real as global tectonics. You can't try to tell me that earthquakes and other issues related with global tectonics are a government excuse to raise taxes. How could you claim this of global warming? It sounds like you've been watching Fox News


Edit; CKMWM got there before me, heh.

Originally posted by gouldy

"Is global warming a myth, yes"?

Gary, are you joking with this? That's like saying; "Is the water cycle a myth, yes". Global warming or cooling is a natural process that can be sped up or slowed down by what the inhabitants of the planet do with the planets resources. Humans happen to do some pretty bad stuff, which tends towards speeding up the planets current tendency of warming. This is a simplified version of the science, of course, but global warming is as real as global tectonics. You can't try to tell me that earthquakes and other issues related with global tectonics are a government excuse to raise taxes. How could you claim this of global warming? It sounds like you've been watching Fox News


Edit; CKMWM got there before me, heh.

ok mabye its not a myth but its an excuse for the goverment like everything
although i must admit i have a little more faith in our PM now after he basically raised a middle finger to europe

[Coasterkidmwm]

It's fine to disagree with the government and I'm sorry for being so abrasive but if you don't want to listen to experts, then next time you break your leg ask the clerk at the gas station what to do instead of going to a doctor (the expert) since experts who study something for years (life in some cases) clearly are stupid and not to be trusted.

especially the ones who study dirt

thanks for that CK

[SauronHimself]

Farting isn't always bad.

[Coasterkidmwm]

Thank you for reviving one of my favorite commercials ever.

My only concern with the global warming terminology is who's to say this isn't a pattern? Haven't we proven that these sorts of events work in cycles? I think its naive that we think the planet can exist in the same state forever without any fluctuation in how it works. Earth is organic, not static.

I wont deny changes. But I think the way we label them has a lot of political influence. I don't like the term "global warming" and I consider that all poppycock. But the fact that things are changing, that's definitely true. I just think the name and description it currently has is wrong. I think there's some other way to define it, we just don't have enough data.

It's definitely a combo. While warming is inevitable, it would help if we didn't totally go nuts with emissions.

That said I'm not a "omg lets go green!!!!" person. I still love impractical gas machines like sports cars (screw hybrid sports cars). But there are some things that we should limit I think. Mainly the over-the-top things that emit a lot of junk...which either way we should reduce for the sake of generally clean air, etc.

[Coasterkidmwm]

Originally posted by Real

My only concern with the global warming terminology is who's to say this isn't a pattern? Haven't we proven that these sorts of events work in cycles?

Again this i like people s why I don'ttalking out of their asses. It's the rate of change. The rate of change currently is stupidly fast compared to anything has happened in the past ever. Current ice shelve destruction is unprecedented. I bet you 10 dollars you had to Google search just now what an ice shelf is.

Originally posted by Real
I wont deny changes. But I think the way we label them has a lot of political influence.

No it doesn't have an political influence. Republicans in the USA invented the idea that "scientists don't agree". I have yet to meet a glaciologist that is against climate change. Those glaciologists don't exist, contrary to whatever you'd like to think does exist. The climate change "debate" is by the largest example of retards from the south arbitrarily deciding something doesn't exist based on no knowledge of the subject. Just because some dipshit political correspondent on TV says something doesn't mean it's true. Have you ever met a political science major? They're stupid across the board and yet they end up in charge of things. It's incredible.

Originally posted by Real
I don't like the term "global warming" and I consider that all poppycock.

Congratulations. Contrary to popular belief, what you'd like to happen doesn't always happen. You have no knowledge of the following:
*Glacial dynamics
*Past Glaciations and the "cycles" you're magically an expert and all knowing on
*Current glacial mass balance
*Core Data and Fossil data
*The scientific process
*Climatology

If you don't understand the issue, where it comes from, and WHY something is an issue then you cannot arbitrarily decide something isn't true. You also quite frankly don't know poop Using the term "global warming" straight up shows someone doesn't know a damn thing. Seeing a picture of glacier in a magazine doesn't make you an expert. Shoveling snow doesn't make you an expert. Deal with it.

Like a said before, if you're ignorant of the data then keep your love mouth shut and let people who have a clue what they're doing work with it. Do you think people like coming to these conclusions? Do you think people like watching what they study accelerate and dissolve before their eyes while a bunch of fatties from the south make fun of them in between church and crystal meth hits?

The United States is an international joke because of people like you. It's astounding we're still a world power considering how far down the toilet our educational system is. When Einstein was alive newspapers used to report on his findings. Now putting anything in the newspaper of that caliber is a "liberal attack on the foundation of america".

Again like I said even arguing about this is like going to a quantum physics conference and telling the people at CERN that they're stupid and a waste of time when you don't even have half a clue what they're doing there.

You have no idea the political hurdles people who attempt to study this people have to jump through because some idiots decided to make this difficult. You are aware that polar conferences usually will have a "and if you're from the United States try this to deal with all of the bullshit you need to filter through". It makes people visibly depressed. The only way some professors I know get any work done is through dual citizenship.

You can tell right off the bat someone doesn't know what they're talking about when they say "global warming". It's like going to a paleontology conference and talking about Darwin. You're just going to get laughed at.

If this was all a myth, then it wouldn't have lobbyists working their ass off to lobby against it.

This WAS a topic about gas hydrate discharge and how the size of the things are insanely huge and then people who don't know anything had to butt in and retard it up with their "opinion" on things they don't understand.

If I posted a topic on a recent development in magnetics would you all decide that it's "poppycock" or would it require someone on TV to tell you to do it first?

What's even better is that people who don't even know what they're talking about have "concerns" about things. It's amazing really.

I have "concerns" about some of the problems in a linear algebra course material. I don't understand where the equations come from, how they're derived, or anything useful or pertinent to the subject. However, someone on TV said linear algebra was made up and there was a graph next to his face when he said it. I've seen a couple pictures of a linear algebra equation and done basic addition so I totally have the capacity to form an opinion on the validity of a group of experts and a field in itself. Anyone who even deals with linear algebra is a stupid and wasting their time in a conspiracy to time to the public in an effort to impart socialism.

Praise Jesus and the family values of Uganda.

^

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

Granted I skipped over half of it.

[gouldy]

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm


The United States is an international joke because of people like you. It's astounding we're still a world power considering how far down the toilet our educational system is. When Einstein was alive newspapers used to report on his findings. Now putting anything in the newspaper of that caliber is a "liberal attack on the foundation of america".

This makes me wonder somewhat. Did the recent, pretty historic, results from the LHC at CERN make the news in the public domain in the USA? Or even the findings of the USA's own endeavours to find life elsewhere in the universe, from the Kepler telescope? This is the kind of stuff that makes the national news here, and those are examples of things I've seen appearing on tv news here recently. So even people who weren't neccessarily interested in science previously can easily come to know of advancements in knowledge/understanding that the species is making. Previous expereince and what you just said seems to lead me to believe that it's not like this in the US, which, if that's true, makes me a little sad in a way.

[Coasterkidmwm]

If any of that ends up in the paper, it's shoved in the back end of the paper where you're unlikely find it but before the all important sports section.

Some stuff will be mentioned on like CNN since they need to eat up air time, but as far as being mentioned on a 1 hour news show you're lucky if anything gets mentioned at all and it usually requires a slow news day.

[gouldy]

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[Coasterkidmwm]

I'm excluding natural disasters btw

You are an incredibly angry person. I was simply trying to have a conversation and you went absolutely nuts. Someone forget to lube it up for you tonight?

That was more or less TL:DR. When you can learn to have a conversation, get back with us. kthxluvusomuchbi

[Coasterkidmwm]

Originally posted by Real

I was simply trying to have a conversation and you went absolutely nuts.

So don't make up garbage based on your own wishful thinking.

I never said what I said was fact, did I? Boom. You do love to spin a conversation but you are terrible at covering it.

[Coasterkidmwm]

Originally posted by Real
I think its naive that we think the planet can exist in the same state forever without any fluctuation in how it works. Earth is organic, not static.

BS Event #1. Nobody "thinks" that.

Originally posted by Real
I wont deny changes. But I think the way we label them has a lot of political influence.

BS Event #2. It's international. New Zealand never gave a rats ass what was going on over here when the drilling began.

Originally posted by Real
I don't like the term "global warming" and I consider that all poppycock.

BS Event #3 based on your personal preferences. Not the term used by anyone who knows what they're doing anyways.

Originally posted by Real
But the fact that things are changing, that's definitely true. I just think the name and description it currently has is wrong.

BS Event #4. Congrats. Go fix it yourself then with the knowledge you've amassed.

Originally posted by Real
I think there's some other way to define it, we just don't have enough data.

BS Event #5. You don't even know what data we do have, how it's acquired, or what any of it means.

Total sentences in your post: 10
Total sentences that are bullshit: 5

Great job Mr. Mc"I'm-Right-But-TL:DR".

CK, I think why gazag and Real are saying those things is because of the environmental lobbyists, trying to stir up fear in the people so that they all give them votes. I don't consider them a reliable source of information, but I agree that you should listen to what the geologists have to say. The Environmentalists are getting a bit annoying.