SOPA and PIPA gone for now... ACTA is in

Ok. Weve won the battle but not the war. It turns out, in secret, they have been planning this bill. Its like SOPA and PIPA, but 1000 times worse.

Quoted from... a website:

On Saturday October 1st, eight countries (the United States, Australia, Canada, Japan, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore, and South Korea) signed the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) in Tokyo, Japan. Three of the participating countries (the European Union, Mexico, and Switzerland) have not yet signed the treaty, but have issued a joint statement affirming their intentions to sign it ??????as soon as practicable.?????? ACTA will remain open for signature until May 2013. While the treaty??????s title might suggest that it deals only with counterfeit physical goods such as medicines, it is in fact far broader in scope. ACTA contains new potential obligations for Internet intermediaries, requiring them to police the Internet and their users, which in turn pose significant concerns for citizens?????? privacy, freedom of expression, and fair use rights.

EFF was one of the first groups to raise the alarm about ACTA, when negotiations were first announced by the U.S. Trade Ambassador, the European Union, and Japan in October of 2007. From the beginning, we were deeply concerned about the lack of transparency in the negotiating process. The U.S. Trade Representative (USTR) drafted a confidentiality agreement, signed by all parties, which purported to prohibit negotiating countries from disclosing any information about ACTA. Nevertheless, several versions of the trade agreement text and accompanying negotiating documents were leaked to the public, which allowed legal scholars from the participating countries to effectively analyze the impact of ACTA on many different countries with differing legal regimes and regulatory policies. The combination of scholarly analysis and pressure from civil society has helped to rein in the treaty. Many of the most concerning specific provisions that were present in preliminary versions of ACTA, such as requirements for ISPs to adopt Three Strikes Internet disconnection policies, were eliminated from the "final" version released by the USTR in May 2011.

Controversy over ACTA in the United States is far from over. Senator Ron Wyden has sent a letter to President Obama asking why the administration believes that ACTA does not require formal approval from Congress. Wyden goes on to point out that legal scholars have repeatedly raised concerns that ACTA is not consistent with US law and if the USTR ratifies ACTA without Congressional consent, it may be circumventing Congress' Constitutional authority to regulate international commerce. The letter goes on to say:

The executive branch lacks Constitutional authority to enter a binding international agreement covering issues delegated by the Constitution to Congresses' authority, absent Congressional approval.

Meanwhile, Brazil's parliament is debating proposed "Anti-ACTA" legislation, with provisions for the protection of net neutrality and the privacy and personal data of individuals, in direct opposition to language in ACTA which gives copyright holders carte blanche to demand trafic logs from ISPs to identify alleged offenders.

Unfortunately, rightholders' efforts to use multi-lateral treaties to enforce their intellectual property rights across the world may not end with ACTA. A leaked version of the IP chapter of the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPP), which is currently being negotiated by nine countries (U.S., Australia, Peru, Malaysia, Vietnam, New Zealand, Chile, Singapore, and Brunei) indicates that U.S. negotiators are pushing for the adoption of copyright measures far more restrictive than ACTA. Like ACTA, TPP is being negotiated rapidly and with little transparency. Negotiating countries hope to complete the agreement by November 2011. If you are in the U.S., now is the time to contact your lawmakers and demand transparency around TPP.

Here is a video too.



What will, and can, we do? Will they finally get the best of us? After all, this one is FAR more likely to pass. If it does... its been nice knowing you guys.

Yeah if it passes then MEEP MEEP...VAROOM I'm outta here! Anyway this bill seems crazy enough to work...for them!

Does the government even THINK AT ALL!!!!!

What the..?

Edit: this video explains it all in the easiest way possible http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=citzRjwk-sQ

[SauronHimself]

What...the...f**k.

People against anonymous,



Look at the love date, '2009', they tried :/

[Coasterkidmwm]

New bill:

Nobody under the age of 21 can use the interwebz.

New new bill:

Nobody who spells things with unnecessary 'z's can use the internet.

Originally posted by Coaster Hero

Its like SOPA and PIPA, but 1000 times worse.

Nice.

Quoted from... a website:

Nice.

Originally posted by Topthrill123

Edit: this video explains it all in the easiest way possible http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=citzRjwk-sQ

No, it doesn't. It explains it the most conveniently for young, easily convinced idiots that will believe anything they hear. It explains it in the form of a BLATANT filter bubble [but you wouldn't know it's liberally filtered unless you actually read the bill because everyone is so blind to notice the filtration from THE REAL LIFE THINGS that is happening to us THROUGH RELIANCE ON THE INTERNET] and it's quite clearly biased to one side.

Think about what you say. And don't WATCH videos or READ summaries- read the god damn bill. The fact that there is such a huge god damn chasm between the opposing sides of this ''war'' is due to people who can't think critically for themselves- or without the Internet that is. If you read the bill, you'll notice it is not intelligent by any means of course, but it's not nearly as black and white terror as the authors and creators of articles and videos have made you think [again, because you can't think for yourself] it will be.

I'm still against the movement of course... but once you actually read the statements made in truth about these bills, you'll probably *sigh* and say, "Wow, that was blown out of proportion."

[gouldy]

Isn't ACTA old news? Why are people saying it's some 'secret' thing?

^^ you put my thoughts into the appropriate words. You all hear something and believe it, at this point if you read an article on a somewhat credible site that the yetti actually exists, you'd believe them without the slightest bit of evidence. If you want to know something, don't just believe what you read on the internet, go to the direct source, in this case the actual bill.

[gouldy]

News Source:

"There is a newly discovered animal that remarkably resembles a yeti in the antarctic! Here are photos, here is a video of a group of the animals in their habitat, here are eye witness reports and a plethora of other evidences. It seems the yeti has been hiding underground for the last few thousand years" *several other reputable news sources are also claiming the same thing*

CKidd:

"Well this isn't good enough" *books travel to antartica*




I'm obviously joking, but there are plenty of times when you are perfectly capable of just trusting the news source when online. However, youtube videos definitely do not fall into that category. I don't just believe things I see online, especially if it is just from one source, but my point is that you can very easily (often) verify information with the internet. And without expending much effort, you can quite easily sort between what is true or at least an objective representation of the truth, and what is just rubbish or is suffering from a hideously subjective spin.

here is an update http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/2 ... 33960.html

It happened, Slovenia signed...
Also, a new prime minister was just elected without elections.
I don't want to live here anymore.

we DO have a chance against this read this http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201201 ... tion.shtml

[Coasterkidmwm]

Originally posted by Freddie

New new bill:

Nobody who spells things with unnecessary 'z's can use the internet.

You smell.

if they can get this to the Senate than we MAY have a chance that's what the petitions goal is.

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

Originally posted by Freddie

New new bill:

Nobody who spells things with unnecessary 'z's can use the internet.

You smell.

For 25 or whatever you're just a beacon of maturity.

[Oscar]

virgins

Originally posted by Freddie

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm


You smell.

For 25 or whatever you're just a beacon of maturity.

This is what we call the era of "that is already obvious."

[Coasterkidmwm]

Originally posted by GerstlCrazy
This is what we call the era of "that is already obvious."

Didn't know they put a new one above the Paleozoic all knowing fat one.

So even people that have muscle and structure other than bones are fatties to you?

What I mean to ask is anyone who is bigger than you is a fatty to you?

^If yes......

wow.

i am very scared on how this is going to turn out so i will continue to update the progress or decline(hopefully) of this agreement.