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Post July 8th, 2012, 10:09 pm

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Can I please host a compact B&M invert challenge for No Limits, please? I already have the template and the rules made.

Here are the rules of this contest:


The ride must fit inside the boundaries of the template. (Including the station building)

The ride must be at least 80 feet tall, but no taller than 130 feet.

The ride must be able to run at least 3 trains.

The ride must pass the E-Stop Test, and Tunnel Test.

The ride must have at least 6 cars per train.

The ride must be at least 3200 feet long in track length.

The ride must have at least 1 Mid Course Brake Run, and 1 final brake run (They both have to be block segments)

The ride must have at least 5 inversions.

The ride must be a B&M Invert Only.

No lift speeds faster than 8 MPH (Miles Per Hour).

No launched rides are allowed.

No custom scenery (except for custom stations and custom footers only).

Custom car textures are allowed.

The ride you enter must be a .nltrack or a .nlpack.

Only one entry per person is allowed.

The deadline is July 30th.

Also, please try to keep your ride realistic and survivable.

For those who don't know, heres a description of the tunnel test:

The tunnel test is really straightforward. You want to make sure your ride is safe, so you test for possible collisions. You do this by taking your entire track, checking the "Tunnel" box on it in the Editor, and check in the Simulator to make sure that nothing (foliage, supports, other track, terrain, etc.) enters the ride space. If anything sticks through the tunnel walls, move it. Once you've squared that away, go back and uncheck "Tunnel".

And here's a description of the E-Stop:

E-Stop is a bit trickier to explain, do, and pass properly. You can think about it like this: Something is on the track, and a train is running the circuit - it has to be stopped at the next block section (brake segment, in NoLimits), so you hit the Emergency Stop key (F12). First, the next brake section has to FULLY stop the train, and it can't do so with excessive acceleration G-Forces (in excess of -1.5, I'd say). Second, when you disengage the Emergency Stop, the train must resume moving. Some coaster companies accomplish this with transporting mechanics within the brake section like LIMs or Friction Wheels, while others rely on pitched brake sections to give the trains their speed. Finally, to successfully pass the E-Stop test, the train must make it through the rest of the circuit without stalling. This applies to every block segment on your ride - lifts, MCBRs, anything.

Whenever you upload your ride, tag it with:

RideOnKI's Compact B&M Invert Challenge.

Link to Template:

http://coastercrazy.com/track_exchange/detail/19182

So, do I have permission to host this contest?
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Post July 8th, 2012, 11:10 pm

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Even if this stays unofficial, I'll still give it a go! Just a quick question, though:

When you say "The ride must fit in the boundaries", does this include the station building?
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Damn.. Better rework my pre-lift.
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Post July 9th, 2012, 12:06 am
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Please post in the "Contests" area next time. Also, UN-Offical contest is a go.

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Post July 9th, 2012, 12:24 am
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I'll join

do supports have to stay in the red box?

Post July 9th, 2012, 4:57 am
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I'll join.

Are same block tunnel collisions allowed?

So we're allowed to make our own stations that are smaller than the default one as long as they fit in the red box?
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Post July 9th, 2012, 6:53 am

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I'll try giving it a go.

Can I move the First Vertex?
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Post July 9th, 2012, 1:29 pm

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Yes, you are allowed to make your own stations as long as they fit in the red box, Yes, supports have to stay in the red box, and yes, you can move the first vertex as long as it stays in the red box.No, no same block tunnel collisions are allowed. No tunnel collisons period, and yes, supports have to stay in the red box.

Post July 9th, 2012, 2:00 pm

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oohh, i want to join so badly but I am about to go on vacation... >:( I will see what I can do.
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Post July 9th, 2012, 2:06 pm

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This is a pretty small template for an Invert lol
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Post July 9th, 2012, 2:19 pm
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Originally posted by RideOnKI

No tunnel collisons period


So the clearance tunnels can't even collide? Rides collide like that all the time.

Post July 9th, 2012, 2:45 pm
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no same block tunnel collisions? So forget realistic vertical loops then...
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Post July 9th, 2012, 2:59 pm

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I apologize, but yes, you can have same block tunnel collisons. Sorry for my mistake guys.

Post July 9th, 2012, 6:28 pm

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Another question about the boundaries real quick:

Does it matter if the rails are outside the box? I've been in contests where it was the rails that had to be in, and I've been in contests where the vertices had to be within the box.
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Post July 9th, 2012, 7:21 pm

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^ Like track rails? Yes, the track rails have to be inside the box, and so do the lift stairs if that is what you are talking about.

Post July 9th, 2012, 9:55 pm
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Post July 9th, 2012, 10:31 pm

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you might as well allow any kind of custom scenery, otherwise it will be hard to find a line between custom station and other custom scenery.
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I can't even squeeze in a 30 meter lift hill at a 35* angle and a decently shaped drop, let alone an actual layout with an MCBR and five inversions. To give some perspective the footprint of an SLC (33 meters [~100 feet] tall, 689 [~2260 feet] meters long, five inversions but no MCBR) is 110 meters [~360 feet] by 47 meters [~155 feet] while the space you gave us is only 66.5 meters [~218 feet] by 48 meters [~157 feet] making it for all intents and purposes impossible to make a realistic coaster that fits in the boundaries and meets all the criteria.
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Post July 10th, 2012, 12:57 am
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change this to just inverted coaster style contest, **** your b&m

Post July 10th, 2012, 8:09 am

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I think its possible, i am gonna give it a try but its gonna be hard.

Post July 10th, 2012, 8:17 am

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I believe it is possible to make a B&M Invert in these bounaries, however I don't really think that having a Midcourse Brake along the course is practical or even possible.
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Post July 10th, 2012, 8:39 am

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When I opened this, I said "holy s*** that's tiny!"

Which now makes me really want to try it. B&M? Maybe in the look of the track and cars... that's going to be the most B&M you'll see in my attempt if I do go try it out.

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