Any atheists around?

[gouldy]

Coolbeans, the short answer is; no one knows, so anyone can insert whatever codswallop they want. Or, like me, some are perfectly comfortable with accepting that we just don't know.

We, as Humans, may never be able to answer these questions - they could be unknowable. The questions may not even make sense, for example: "What was before the Big Bang?" Since the Human concept of time only began at the point of the Big Bang, does that render questions of time before said point... pointless?

There are many ideas about the origins of the Universe that I can accept as having valid resoning and a certain plausibility about them; such as an ever expanding and contracting Universe, or an infinite loop Universe being relived over and over again (made possible by the destruction of "time" as discussed previously - and determinism). But I don't accept these as truths, but rather as ideas, which is simply what they are - even though they're ideas based in reasoning.

What is very clear, though, is that you can write of the specific claims of the modern monothestic religions as valid ideas on the origins of the Universe, because the majority of the claims made have been proven to be false over time. Even though it is true that literally anything is possible "before" the point of the big bang, it's evident that none of the modern religious scriptures understand even the age of the Universe. This is to be expected, though, considering the source of the Abrahamic religions.


Also, as a side note; to settle the "which came first, the chicken, or the egg?" question:

The modern day chicken evolved from an egg laying animal, so conclusively and really quite dramatically, the egg came before the chicken. This really is not even close. We're talking millions and millions of years.

I want to go through a Stargate to an advanced alien civilization and steal their technology. Then with that technology, prove there is no god.

Originally posted by Jcoasters

I want to go through a Stargate to an advanced alien civilization and steal their technology. Then with that technology, prove there is no god.

Scientists say if we were to see extraterrestrial life they would be technologically disadvantaged since resources required for technology may be less natural

Originally posted by coolbeans326

If the big bang theory is an egg, where did the egg come from?

also, one of my favorite quotes, "There is nowhere before the Big Bang; just as there is nowhere south of the south pole."

Anyway, Buddhism, let's all try to reach nirvana

[TheArchitect]

Nirvana, indeed. I follow Buddhism.

[Coasterkidmwm]

Originally posted by Jcoasters

I want to go through a Stargate to an advanced alien civilization and steal their technology. Then with that technology, prove there is no god.

That sounds like a really well thought out plan. You should design a city.

^ why not urban planners aren't known for great ideas

[coolbeans326]

Originally posted by RideWarriorNation

Originally posted by coolbeans326

If the big bang theory is an egg, where did the egg come from?

also, one of my favorite quotes, "There is nowhere before the Big Bang; just as there is nowhere south of the south pole."

Anyway, Buddhism, let's all try to reach nirvana

haha i like that. for that, i give you kudos![^]

Originally posted by CKidd

^ why not urban planners aren't known for great ideas

At least they don't limit themselves to one building like architects.

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

Originally posted by Jcoasters

I want to go through a Stargate to an advanced alien civilization and steal their technology. Then with that technology, prove there is no god.

That sounds like a really well thought out plan. You should design a city.

Not to mention that if we had a stargate, we probably wouldn't need alien technology.

Sun goes up, Sun goes down. Tide goes in, Tide goes out. You can't explain that.

[gouldy]

Originally posted by MACchiato

Sun goes up, Sun goes down. Tide goes in, Tide goes out. You can't explain that.

Bill O'Reily is beyond an ignoramus. He is at his very own level of stupid that others have yet to reach. He is, in effect, a pioneer of stupidity.

Originally posted by gouldy

Originally posted by MACchiato

Sun goes up, Sun goes down. Tide goes in, Tide goes out. You can't explain that.

Bill O'Reily is beyond an ignoramus. He is at his very own level of stupid that others have yet to reach. He is, in effect, a pioneer of stupidity.

I believe he can be classified as brain-damaged.

And yet he makes the most sense of all his colleagues. I know it's not really cool to mock Glen Beck anymore but I mean come on....that guy is a fuc.king nutcase. And Hannity has his head so far up his ass that he's a joke.

[gouldy]

In all fairness, you could just extend my previous comment to include the entire team working at that channel - that would probably be more fitting. Dangerously stupid individuals, working as a dangerously stupid team to broadcast to a dangerously stupid and dangerously ignorant audience who just love every bit of the blatant misinformation that they are fed.

The fact that their tag line is "Fair & Balanced" as well, is just an horrendous insult.

Look up some of my old posts going back and forth with Tconwell, it's good stuff.

[Coasterkidmwm]

Originally posted by Freddie

Look up some of my old posts talk with a brick wall donning a buzzcut, it's good stuff.

Fix'd

[gouldy]

I have had many a "discussion" with TCon on Facebook, too. Although, I think he grew sick of it and simply removed me from his friends list Which was a shame, to be fair, his statuses, while often shameful, did offer quite a chuckle every now and then!