Efteling Adds B&M Dive Coaster, Baron 1898, for 2015

[Paradox]

Thanks! They work fine now.

What a beauty of a ride this is going to be. So jealous it's so far away.

This is supposed to have a Vertical loop right?

[Dirk_Ermen]

CoasterGuy2000 wrote:

This is supposed to have a Vertical loop right?

I know it's going to have 2 inversions. One of them being an immelmann. So I actually doubt the 2nd element will be a looping. I don't think there will be enough momentum for the train to make it with this height.

first ever corkscrew on a dive or one of those elements on the wing riders

[Paradox]

There will be no wingrider like drop because it is a dive coaster so it will have the almost vertical drop instead.

The momentum problem isn't my greatest concern, but the loop would have to be pretty wide.

^no im talking about something similar to this on a dive coaster

[Dirk_Ermen]

Well, it's going fast now. The first track outside the station has been put up:






















































Source: RctLand.com

[Paradox]

I love it!

B&M brake fins? Im interested!

Looks a little bit like the fins on Thunderbird.

[mkingy]

Paradox wrote:

There will be no wingrider like drop because it is a dive coaster so it will have the almost vertical drop instead.

The momentum problem isn't my greatest concern, but the loop would have to be pretty wide.

Odd they've started doing magnetic fins vertically as opposed to what they've done previously with the horizontal magnetic brakes!

Can't see them adding an inline twist wingrider style due to the forces (wingriders benefit massively for having a low heartline).

6 Across trains so the loop wouldn't be much wider than usual - but given the smaller height and loss in momentum (loop may have to be pretty small depending on location in layout) this would be more of an issue. Given the first element is to be a sidewinder/immelman it's not very plausible.

Really the ride is reported to be a similar height and speed to Oblivion: The Black Hole @ Gardaland (139ft - 123ft and 55.9mpg to 62mph) - they also both begin with an immelman (or sidewinder if you prefer). I'd hedge my bets on them having extremely similar, if not the same, layouts and the second element being a heartline roll.

[Paradox]

Are all of the supports going to be like that? It looks weird for B&M.

no its probably going to be certain it

[Dirk_Ermen]

Paradox wrote:

Are all of the supports going to be like that? It looks weird for B&M.

From what I've seen on the few leaked out pictures of parts of the layout it will be only the lift hill supports that will receive those special support style.


More pictures from the park:

Overview


Catwalks being installed


Theming detail


Lots of roof construction going on


Catwalk


Catwalk railings being installed


First catwalk in place

Source:Themepark.nl

This ain't b&m this can't be because there doing stuff b&m doesn't do

[Turbo]

they've been using brake fins for a while now

deere839 wrote:

This ain't b&m this can't be because there doing stuff b&m doesn't do

Can you learn how to grammar? Seriously.

mkingy wrote:

Paradox wrote:

There will be no wingrider like drop because it is a dive coaster so it will have the almost vertical drop instead.

The momentum problem isn't my greatest concern, but the loop would have to be pretty wide.

Odd they've started doing magnetic fins vertically as opposed to what they've done previously with the horizontal magnetic brakes!

Can't see them adding an inline twist wingrider style due to the forces (wingriders benefit massively for having a low heartline).

6 Across trains so the loop wouldn't be much wider than usual - but given the smaller height and loss in momentum (loop may have to be pretty small depending on location in layout) this would be more of an issue. Given the first element is to be a sidewinder/immelman it's not very plausible.

Really the ride is reported to be a similar height and speed to Oblivion: The Black Hole @ Gardaland (139ft - 123ft and 55.9mpg to 62mph) - they also both begin with an immelman (or sidewinder if you prefer). I'd hedge my bets on them having extremely similar, if not the same, layouts and the second element being a heartline roll.

Well, Raptor Manages 6 inversions with about the same stats so it should be able to do an Immelman and loop I might make an NL2 version in a bit.

[Dirk_Ermen]

deere839 wrote:

This ain't b&m this can't be because there doing stuff b&m doesn't do

Looks pretty new generation B&M to me.

I originally thought this was going to be a small-ish dive by the concept art, but wow, that's huge! Can't wait to see the track go up more!

[TTD03]

Looking great especially with those brake fins!

We're all going crazy over brake fins.

[Paradox]

Doesn't Krake have fins too?

[Dirk_Ermen]

Paradox wrote:

Doesn't Krake have fins too?

Yes