Board index Theme Park Discussions Theme Park News & Construction! K??RNAN @Hansa-Park World's First Gerstlauer Hyper Coaster

K??RNAN @Hansa-Park World's First Gerstlauer Hyper Coaster

Theme Park Construction And News Forum

mkingy User avatar
Moderator
Moderator

Posts: 5462
Points on hand: 28,116.00 Points
Bank: 0.00 Points
Location: United Kingdom
So a temporary chaindog which is attached to first and a permanent chaindog lower than this to "catch" the train as it falls. Even with the magnetic braking this sounds like a maintenance nightmare on the chain and motor? We shall see I guess - I have my reservations about this from a reliability standpoint.
Coaster Count - 198
France 2019 Mini Trip Report

JAMMY User avatar
Event Coordinator
Event Coordinator

Posts: 294
Points on hand: 5,820.00 Points
Here is a quick mock-up of what I mean.

In image 1, the shorter chain-dog pushes the train up the lift. In image 2, when the chain trough indents inwards, the shorter chain-dog is too short to keep contact with the train and so train freefalls backwards. In image 3, after train is slowed by magnetic fins, a taller chain-dog further down the chain in position engages the train and pushes the train back up. In image 4, as the chain-dog is taller, it remains contact even when in the indented section, continuing to push the train up and over.

Obviously this is all speculation and is all based on how Gerstlauer make lift hills normally with the presence of chain-dogs located on the chain themselves to 'push' trains up. This may be a completely new design for Karnan but this is simply my thoughts. :P

Image
Last edited by JAMMY on July 3rd, 2015, 7:55 am, edited 1 time in total.
Favourite Park 2016:Still LISEBERG (mmm... HELIX)
Favourite Ride 2016: Still HELIX (at night)

Steam: JAMMYD777
https://twitter.com/JAMMYD778
https://www.youtube.com/JAMMYD778

Coasterkidmwm User avatar
True Addicts
True Addicts

Posts: 12283
Points on hand: 8,049.10 Points
Bank: 15,000.00 Points
Location: Illinois, USA
I'll buy that conceptual model if someone can actually confirm it.
"Careful man, there's a beverage here!"


Posts: 692
Points on hand: 2,485.00 Points
Hell, Confirmed or not that's actually a really good system for a manufacturer to use.


Posts: 8144
Points on hand: 13,491.00 Points
Jammy, I think people can take in these images, thanks! :D
-- I was happy to be with NL1 - [:')] --

Paradox User avatar
Moderator
Moderator

Posts: 6144
Points on hand: 7,113.00 Points
Bank: 10,198.60 Points
Location: USA
Coasterkidmwm wrote:
gouldy wrote:
Just don't employ stupid people and you're golden.

That's like finding a Waffle House with no white trash in it.


Posts: 8144
Points on hand: 13,491.00 Points
Thanks CC for putting this awesome video. Thanks Coaster Crew for adding a cool background music! That backward drop along the vertical lift, absolutely makes the ride time longer!

Made an excellent choice, Gerstlauer! :D
-- I was happy to be with NL1 - [:')] --

Paradox User avatar
Moderator
Moderator

Posts: 6144
Points on hand: 7,113.00 Points
Bank: 10,198.60 Points
Location: USA
Theming is finally starting to go up on the tower!

Image

Image

This year, the park worked on the station building, outer walls, and themed the entire queue

Outer walls:

Image

Image

Image

Image

Queue:

Image

Station storage boxes:

Image

Station loading area:

Image

New preshows:



Coasterkidmwm wrote:
gouldy wrote:
Just don't employ stupid people and you're golden.

That's like finding a Waffle House with no white trash in it.

Oscar User avatar
Founding Member
Founding Member

Posts: 14409
Points on hand: 11,989.60 Points
Bank: 187,052.60 Points
Location: California, USA

this looks neato
Support Us! - Click Here To Donate $5 Monthly!
Paradox wrote:
No need to tell Oscar about the problems. He is magic.

Coasterkidmwm User avatar
True Addicts
True Addicts

Posts: 12283
Points on hand: 8,049.10 Points
Bank: 15,000.00 Points
Location: Illinois, USA
Would be cool if they crammed an elevator lift ride into somewhere like Knotts.
"Careful man, there's a beverage here!"


Posts: 2092
Points on hand: 0.00 Points
Bank: 17,508.00 Points
Location: sheffield, UK
JAMMY wrote:
Here is a quick mock-up of what I mean.

In image 1, the shorter chain-dog pushes the train up the lift. In image 2, when the chain trough indents inwards, the shorter chain-dog is too short to keep contact with the train and so train freefalls backwards. In image 3, after train is slowed by magnetic fins, a taller chain-dog further down the chain in position engages the train and pushes the train back up. In image 4, as the chain-dog is taller, it remains contact even when in the indented section, continuing to push the train up and over.

Obviously this is all speculation and is all based on how Gerstlauer make lift hills normally with the presence of chain-dogs located on the chain themselves to 'push' trains up. This may be a completely new design for Karnan but this is simply my thoughts. :P

Image

in the video, the train waits a bit before free-falling, so i don't entirely see how the above system would work. very clever and interesting, though, as I'm very interested in the technical side of roller coasters.

herman116 User avatar
Premium Member
Premium Member

Posts: 636
Points on hand: 7,471.00 Points
Location: The Netherlands
The picture is almost right... instead of 2 chain-dogs, there is only one. It will push the train up. Once it's at the top, some breaks will activate and hold the train. Now the chain will go backwards (this is the wait part in the video). Once the chain dog is at the bottom of the lift, the brakes will open and the train will fall into the magnetic brakes and gently onto the chain-dog.

Turbo User avatar
Moderator
Moderator

Posts: 3771
Points on hand: 5,516.00 Points
Bank: 21,857.68 Points
Location: WA, USA

This is why I love roller coasters haha, so many cool things
Coaster Count: 582 // Top Five: 1. Helix 2. Nemesis 3. Big Bad Wolf 4. Boulder Dash 5. Balder

Coasterkidmwm wrote:
4 G's to the taint was a bit much for me because I'm not a power bottom like Turbo


Posts: 8144
Points on hand: 13,491.00 Points
Wow getting so technical! :D
-- I was happy to be with NL1 - [:')] --

Paradox User avatar
Moderator
Moderator

Posts: 6144
Points on hand: 7,113.00 Points
Bank: 10,198.60 Points
Location: USA
More theming is going up on the tower!

Image

Image
Coasterkidmwm wrote:
gouldy wrote:
Just don't employ stupid people and you're golden.

That's like finding a Waffle House with no white trash in it.

Coasterkidmwm User avatar
True Addicts
True Addicts

Posts: 12283
Points on hand: 8,049.10 Points
Bank: 15,000.00 Points
Location: Illinois, USA
That looks much better than it did initially. Glad they're finishing everything up.
"Careful man, there's a beverage here!"

Paradox User avatar
Moderator
Moderator

Posts: 6144
Points on hand: 7,113.00 Points
Bank: 10,198.60 Points
Location: USA
Looking better!

Image
Coasterkidmwm wrote:
gouldy wrote:
Just don't employ stupid people and you're golden.

That's like finding a Waffle House with no white trash in it.


Posts: 176
Points on hand: 1,681.00 Points
Location: Six Flags New England
They did a great job on the character paint!
I'm not brand new to NL2 so ignore how many posts I have atm, I post a lot other places :)

??????????????????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ????g???????? ???????????????????

Turbo User avatar
Moderator
Moderator

Posts: 3771
Points on hand: 5,516.00 Points
Bank: 21,857.68 Points
Location: WA, USA

I was terrified that they were going to leave it a concrete mess.
Coaster Count: 582 // Top Five: 1. Helix 2. Nemesis 3. Big Bad Wolf 4. Boulder Dash 5. Balder

Coasterkidmwm wrote:
4 G's to the taint was a bit much for me because I'm not a power bottom like Turbo


Posts: 8144
Points on hand: 13,491.00 Points
Imagine a dark brown building that's somewhere in the Big Apple! :)
-- I was happy to be with NL1 - [:')] --

Paradox User avatar
Moderator
Moderator

Posts: 6144
Points on hand: 7,113.00 Points
Bank: 10,198.60 Points
Location: USA
Image

Image

Image
Coasterkidmwm wrote:
gouldy wrote:
Just don't employ stupid people and you're golden.

That's like finding a Waffle House with no white trash in it.


Posts: 6124
Points on hand: 10,012.00 Points
Location: Minnesota, USA
When that detail work is finished, I would love that picture as an HD wallpaper. Such a bizarre scene lol.
1-Millennium Force | 2-Intimidator 305 | 3-Fury 325
4-Skyrush | 5-Iron Rattler | 6-X2 | 7-Kingda Ka
8-Voyage | 9-Maverick | 10-Monster

161


Posts: 2035
Points on hand: 15,406.90 Points
Location: The Consortium
"World's first Gerstlauer hyper coaster." Sounds to me like an overly narrow superlative, like "world's first Chance rides Hyper GTX."

Coasterkidmwm User avatar
True Addicts
True Addicts

Posts: 12283
Points on hand: 8,049.10 Points
Bank: 15,000.00 Points
Location: Illinois, USA
World's greatest supports go to Gerstlauer.
"Careful man, there's a beverage here!"

Dirk_Ermen User avatar
True Addicts
True Addicts

Posts: 13387
Points on hand: 2,180.50 Points
Bank: 45,000.00 Points
Location: Noord-Brabant, Netherlands
The detail on the tower looks awesome, yet the tower still looks so bizarre just as a stand-alone. xD
Coastercount: 1410 (I've seen the world and it's horrid contraptions... @.@)
- Wood: 142
- Steel: 1268

PreviousNext

Return to Theme Park News & Construction!

 


  • Related topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post