Cedar Point Recreation

[Metazoanhaddock]

While that may be, the track could still very well be designed with a heartline in mind. Just because track doesn't bank around the heartline doesn't mean that it isn't there. There may be forces being applied to the train via the track and momentum that cause it to take the shape it does (AKA a rollercoaster layout) but that doesn't mean in any way, shape, or form that it's not heartlined. In a case such as the one of Arrow Dynamics coasters, no, there isn't a heartline for parts of the coaster (turns) while there is for other parts (loops usually), however, the parts that aren't are BEYOND easy to see whereas this has raised a debate, leading me to believe that it is completely heatlined. You have to realize that unlike Arrow suspended coasters, B&M cars are not free-swinging and as such, if they want any swinging motion, they have to simulate it themselves. Now, in order to have a smooth transition, especially one between two opposing turns as they were (one clockwise, one counter clockwise)(F@cking right-left for god's sake) a swing is preferable as:
1: it's fun as F@ck
2: it's a smooth way to transition
So why wouldn't they use it? Now to get to the point, when you swing from one side to the other, if you want to make the swing wider, the heartline will be more s-shaped, while the track will maintain a straighter geometry. If you were to rotate exactly around the heartline of an inverted coaster while it traveled straight (no swinging, only rotation), the track would be odd shaped and the transitions wouldn't flow. Remember that forces on an inverted coaster mostly face away from the track rather than towards it like those of a non-inverted coaster.

[mkingy]

To me your first instance has a clear heartline too, just it pulls in to and out of the turns much earlier so the transition is much shorter and gives the "swinging" effect Meta is talking about?

[Coasterkidmwm]

The Google Map views are subject to some error because you're photographing a curved surface at an angle and representing it as flat. Where ever they line up the images, the edges are subject to more error than the middle of each picture. I wouldn't take the Google Maps images as a gospel.

^Agreed. They're not good at all. Saying one section of track on Raptor doesn't have a heartline because of the Google map projection is pretty bold. I would either use a blueprint and strict accuracy or the Google map image as a guideline. Also (this goes for everyone) compare side-by-side POVs of your ride and a real POV video if you have two monitors. It's tough to get the timing exactly right but you can notice major differences in your design if you do this.

Well look who decided to stop by and say hi... I've been expecting you, Raptor.



Cya next update!

~Toilet

[Coasterkidmwm]

Looks good so far!

[TTD03]

toiletalker26 wrote:

Well look who decided to stop by and say hi... I've been expecting you, Raptor.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/vePvgeC.png[/imsg]

Cya next update!

~Toilet

Looking solid!

Props to other coasters, too - Gatekeeper and a park classic "Blue Streak" you can see in this photo!

Thank you code.

[Coasterkidmwm]

Looks frigging excellent. I'll get you some screenies of actual progress in a day or two.

^^ This close-up photo of Maverick should always represent this thread! Here is a beautifully twisted element plus we can spot high details of flanges and supports! I call this image wallpaper-worthy!

Again, THANKS CODE!

[Paradox]

Imagine if CP went to B&M for Maverick instead of Intamin.

^B&M honestly wouldn't be able to come anywhere near Maverick's level of intensity

[mkingy]

Looking really good guys. I had to do a double take on the close up of Maverick!

Fantastic!

[Coasterkidmwm]

I hope I'm not over-stepping my boundaries by posting this instead of Toiletalker26 doing it since he's in charge but I haven't seen this thread get much activity in awhile.

^ That shaping looks on point! Good job! Idk if this was discussed earlier in the thread but, are you guys not doing the Rougarou transformation of Mantis?

[Coasterkidmwm]

Basically I'm going to make Mantis spot on because I know it well, and then switch out the colors/brakes/trains/'location of 3 things in the station' and it'll be a Rougarou recreation. Rougarou is just new paint and trains with a major rehab attached. Track and supports didn't change.

You're not over-stepping your boundaries, Coasterkidmwm. Looks very good so far!

[Mr. Freeze]

Looks awesome so far

[Coasterkidmwm]

I need to acquire a better texture for the "gravel" section.

That looks spectacular!

[mkingy]

Looks great CKMW, out of interest (applies to entire project) how are you intending to sew all the track designs together terrain wise? Can you import parts of a terrain - I'm not a a NL computer but I keep meaning to ask.

[Coasterkidmwm]

No idea how that's going to happen lol.

Here's the same screenshot as earlier just with way more supports: