New Ride Design Idea

Iv been thinking....
Is it possible to magnatize a steel cage, (its round, made up of like bars, (like a birdcage), and has two seats in it) and using an electomagnet, lift it a few inches above the air? this would way about 300 kg, and suppose i have unlimited electircty...(for electromagnet)....this goes out to those ppl who r good in Physics...

I have no idea, but I thought of a new track style, I don't know if it would work or not, but have a quad track and the toprails support a sitdown coaster, while the bottom two rails support an inverted ride.

ill try to draw some pics....but anyone...tell me if its do-able...

Well, if they can raise a whole train off of magnetic tracks, I'm sure they could do it with a two-person cage. The technology is there, but I think it's still really expensive.

[coolbeans326]

that would be good, except it would take a lot of money, and it could potentially fly of the track on certain elements such as a camal back, last time I checked, bullet trains don't go through loops and inversion, and have camal backs for that reason more than likely, plus that would be really funny and 0% practicle

yeah it's possible with alot of saftery, you'd just need magnets on the bottom, sides, and top. Would be the smoothest ride out there, and would really be a powered rollercoaster throughout the entire thing. Very expencive though. Maby in 10 years or so something like this might come out.

well, i was thinking of it first..lol. I was thinking about safty, i want to work for WDI (Walt Disney Imagenerring), "safty comes first", it would be smooth, and most of it would be bottom and sides, for loops, and any turns and elements...it would be like a cage tunnel, so it wouldn't fly off.
What about the people, would they be damaged by all the magnets..? They'd have to take off mobile phones and watches...

yea and aslo magnitism changes brain waves, thats why they use a highpower electromagnet in cat scans

Wohoo! Ride a roller coaster and get a catscan at the same time! NOW THAT IS FUN!!![lol]

you can have magnetically sealed cars

Hm, is it just me or are we off of roller coasters and onto the $50 billion magically sealed Harry Potter proofed Bill Gates machine? And no, that didn't make too much sense to me either...

I'd think simply a Maglev train on Steroids...That would probably be the easiest but this would cost a fortune just to even test out.

lol at compuwiz.c Copywright the idea zan before some big companie steals it from ya

Originally posted by Nemesis

yea and aslo magnitism changes brain waves, thats why they use a highpower electromagnet in cat scans

But as far as I have heard, the effects are only that it makes some people happier, and there doesn't seem to be any negative effects, so it's all good!

maks them happier? hm never heard that i guess it is possible, but in a magnetic field the negative and positive electronic charges are pulled towards thier ospsite so basiclly it pulls the electronic charges in your brian out

[Dirk_Ermen]

another idea, spinning 4d [:P]
i guess the people will have then alot of fun [:P]

This will not work in near future, the technology is NOT there.
Magnetically liftet trains do work, but they are very limited concerning tight curves, let alone any coaster-like element. The reason is that magnets may be powerful enough to lift the train a few inches, but it's impossible to keep the wheel assemblies (or the "cage" in your example) on alinged with the track under high g-forces. Even under only 2 g's the train would weigh twice as much on the magnets, a weight no magnet could support today. how do you immagine a loop or other element going against gravity? the magnets that oppose each other must suddenly attract each other, or you'd have to surround the car with inpossibly powerful magnets. Also, the car may just "slide off" the rails under a little more g's, or slamm into the rails.

Another problem is that the car cannot be banked, as it's freely levitated, only pivoted by gravity, and I can't think of any way magnets would control the rotation of the car.

We may see this sometime in future, but i HIGHLY doubt this will be possible in our life-times. The physics the magnets would have to control are not do-able with any technology known today. Magnets and gravity don't work together. A rollercoaster is powered by the one force of gravity (launch/lifthill essentially build on that principle) but adding another external force of magnetism will make it an impossible task to control the train.

But keep the ideas up...dare to dream [;)]

Hmm..I just thought of a not so briliant idea...How about Magnetically levitated Bumper Cars. They'd hover several inches above the floor and be powered possibly by a fan similar to a hover craft. Dunno if it would work tho

You'd have to have some kind of steering mechanism. A fan wouldn't be enough to make tight turns in slow speeds (Hover Crafts use rudders similar to airplanes to direct the thrust of the fan).
Other than that, i could see it working.[pshades]

lol at Angry_Gunball's idea!

yeah but ..(contining MY topic).. it would be in like a half pipe, all forces equal to each other so the ball ((thats the veicle..lets call it)..is in the center, suported by these magnets.
Its not nessary to spin the cage, ball whatever... The rider will sit in a rotatble chair, with a weight on the bottom, so he will keep realtivly horisontal...
As for moving the ball forward, backwords (and even sideways for that matter) THe track will be in small segments, say about a metre each. So lets say i does work, and the ball is lifted and just hovers there, it will because of...was it Netwtons second law?.. ok... to move it forward, increace the power of the electromagnet behind the ball, so it will move forward, cuz there is greater opposition...to slow it down, increace the power to the segment before it....

the magnets could form a box around the cage, making sure the cage would stay on the track and then friction would be more realistc...not sure if that's good though.

um...
im starting to make this reallty!
lol, nothing yet. still figuring how to lift it off the track, without it getting stuck to a side...

[Dirk_Ermen]

maybe i can help... i think i know what you mean [:)]
sounds cool [:P]

Heres a better idea: A coaster that shoots you into a huge burning hot waffle iron that closes on the people. [:D] lol.

well...its possible. But id rather a 8000ft rocket coaster because all the parks in the whole world are going to get one soon, well thats what coasterforce and the ECC told me...

Why use magnets when you could just use the same principal for a ride as hovercraft. Think how heavy the one is thats err goes from dover, so there wouldnt be any trouble with lifting the train. The magnet idea would just be too unrealistic. Think how much electricity it would use...hmm unless they used electromagnets and the train passing over the track itself would actualy make electricity...hmm but safty aswell, some poor kid could be watching the ride and gets a little too close, then ol' timmys necklace gets attracted to the magnets on the track and when the train passes by, your left with quite a mess.