UK peeps - Derren Brown: Messiah?

Did anyone watch Messiah by Derren Brown on CH 4 yesterday night? For people who didnt, mainly american peeps, Derren Brown is a very clever magician/phsycologist kind of guy over here in the UK. He used his so called "powers" to make 5 leaders of large "believer" type groups believe he had powers concerning those groups. For example, he went to this lady who had been dealing with Alien/UFO encounters, and claimed he had been abducted by aliens 10 years ago, and he could now recite the medical history of anyone he met, even if he had never met them. This lady got him to try it on her, and he somehow got every single major medical thing that had happened in her life. It was amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Does anyone know how he does it????? Just wondering cos i thought it was amazing, not as good as his previous program SEANCE (he said he could talk to the dead, and took these students to a university or something where like 12 students had killed themselves. He thenlayed out pictures of all of them and asked everyone to pick one of the spirits they wanted to talk to, and everyone on the program and watching the TV, including me, picked the same girl. He then went on to make all the students talk to her when she was dead. But then she walked through the door, and she was not deda, it was all just a trick!!) that was very good. Just wondering if peeps watched it adnd if they knew how he did it.

I was going to watch it but i have the Flu, so i was pretty much passed out. Basicly Derren Brown is a cooler version of David Blaine, and i think both are smart by the fact that they get people to believe in the BS they tell you. First off none of the tricks imo are real, and are obviously staged or otherwise just (r) illusions! These are just two guys etting rich off peoples stupidity...like Rappers

Originally posted by The Edge

These are just two guys etting rich off peoples stupidity...like Rappers

LMAO edge, nice.

Shows how dumb i am, i like Derren Brown and rappers! (Kanye West is the best)ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! lol. No, i dont think Derren Browns tricks are staged, David Blaine isnt that good, he is no way in the league of Derren Brown! I think Derren Brown is just very clever, if you notice when predicting something or whatever, he starts off very vague. Then the person nods or something, saying hes right, and then he knows hes on to something, and continues to guess in more and more detail, and the persons body language is telling him whether hes right or wrong. Then if he is wrong, he just changes immediately and says, oh its very vague, or something, and guesses at something else, Maybe he is just avery very very clever phsycologist kind a guy.

Actually, i hate rappers, but i like derren brown. I completely forgot about messiah (dammit).

I have to say i disagree with you Edge. One of my mates has been working on the tricks derren brown performs. For exapmle, yesterday, he performed a card trick on me, with an imaginary deck of cards. It was insane. I believe that although some of it is trickery, he uses a lot of other methods to perform his tricks.

For example, subliminal planting, or manipulation of the mind. To explain this, lets say your girlfriend asks you to come meet her parents. Many people shake their heads and say yes. You may not believe me but is true. This is how he does this sort of thing, making people believe what isn't true by planting subliminal messages in their mind.

I totally agree with you there Carlosio, although on some of his tricks i think he almost hypnotises people in a way! it is just amazing how he does it. He manipulates people to believe what he is saying.
And Carlosio, im sure it will be on again one time, as it was very good. You can also buy it on DVD if you really want it. Well i think you can, it advertised a Derren Brown DVD at the end, but i wasnt really concentrating. It might have been the "trick of the mind" DVD!

If you really want a view of how people that can supposedly communicate with the sub-concience do it, watch 'South Park' episode 615: "The Biggest Douche In The Universe". Stan has a dead-relative communication showdown with John Edwards, and he demonstrates how they supposedly do it to try to prove that he is a fake.

yeah Derren Brown did this to prove that it was mostly, if not all fake. He covered physcics, alien abductees, mediums, and this dream believer lady where he knew what people had dreamt. It was really good.

I haven't seen Derren Brown work, so I can't tell if what he does is real or not. Most psychics use a clever but fake strategy called "cold reading", where you make generalized guesses and judge their feelings about that topic based on their reactions, their age, and who they are with. Also, alot of them use paid actors. It is usually pretty easy to see if they are cold reading or not. As far as actors go, you will have to judge that for yourself. I'm not saying that all psychics are fake, there might be a few real ones, but most of them are just money-hungry douches preying on people's insecurities.

It's true that he does a lot of cold reading, and he also can teach certain other people how, like he did in his last series. He doesn't hire actors though, and not all his tricks are about mind reading. He's also done a thing where he told ten people which hand they were holding out without seeing them, and explained why he said each one. He got one out of the ten wrong, called him back, got it right and told him how old he was, how many dogs he had and his marital status without even looking at him. It was quite good.

yeah i saw that, very clever!

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Originally posted by The Edge

Basicly Derren Brown is a cooler version of David Blaine, and i think both are smart by the fact that they get people to believe in the BS they tell you. First off none of the tricks imo are real, and are obviously staged or otherwise just (r) illusions!

hmmm, well, Derren Brown has never claimed to be doing the tricks for real and is always quick to state that what he is doing is an illusion and is perfectly easy to do. Then usually goes on to explain why it works. Like that thing he did about contacting the dead, all the way through he was saying, this is all fake but yet these people still believe its happening.

But yeah some of the stuff he does is still pretty baffling though.

What the hell was with that russian roulette thing he did though, that was just blinted .... thats a made up word by the way, it means wierd, if you don't like it, suck my balls [:D].