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Post January 17th, 2005, 12:25 am

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http://www.coastercrazy.com/track_exchang ... p?tid=6492

He complains that the trim isn't straight, well no trims really are and I was modeling especially after the SB trim. http://www.rollercoasterpro.com/updates ... 3893.shtml
He needs some research done before complaining.
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Post January 17th, 2005, 3:10 am

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Sorry mods, but this has to be commented to:

Trim is a brake section which is a piece of metal (steel actually) which has another piece of metal running through it (attached to the car). If trims do not need to be straight, please tell me what piece of steel is able to bend to enable it to pass through?

PS -- I'm not sure what that picture is that you linked, but it does not help your case as that is a some sort of a hydraulic lift.

Post January 17th, 2005, 3:24 am

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Dude are you retarded? And think I don't know poop about coasters? The pic is of Silver Bullets trim install. They could install a trim there! They have holes like that for a trim on the S: UF rides too. So it does help. And have you ridden my ride: Flight? The brake it self is straight you can't really curve the braks in the sim, just the track section. Also then tell me why the track is curved on SB for the trim install if needed? Also I worked on Medusa @ SFMW last year and the trim after the zero-g roll is curved a bit. They don't have to be perfectly straight and I mean perfect up and down, because they alow the trims to run with trains that are articulating a bit. Now left and right are different...of course there can't be breaks curving left or right. And mine doesn't curve left or right. Here are some screens:

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The track curves into a turn right after the trim. Therefor the part about the trim is BS.

Here is another pic of where a trim can be curved: http://americacoasters.com/KBFConstruct ... ges/09.php

The holes are for trims to be installed and to me that doesn't look straight...

Edit again: Link fixed.

Post January 17th, 2005, 8:01 am
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^^ can't see that link your linking too. Actually on kingda ka they have also a curved trim on the top. let me get the link:
http://www.prnewswire.com/mnr/sixflags/ ... indaka.jpg

EDIT: Gaven the link...

Post January 17th, 2005, 8:39 am

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^ Fogot about Kingda Ka's trim, even when I just posted that link on ACN...lol. So trim breaks can be curved, although they can't be curved left and right...in which mine is not.

Post January 17th, 2005, 4:06 pm

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Dude, I was merely mentioning your going off ... calm down and relax. Rates are supposed to help designers, not get your blood pressure through the roof. However ...

Originally posted by Xbox4414

Dude are you retarded?
No but I have relatives who are so tread lightly.

Originally posted by Xbox4414

And think I don't know poop about coasters?
I think you are saying, "do I think you don't know anything about coasters."
Either way, I don't know, do you?

Originally posted by Xbox4414

The pic is of Silver Bullets trim install. They could install a trim there!
Could does not mean they did.

Originally posted by Xbox4414

They have holes like that for a trim on the S: UF rides too. So it does help. And have you ridden my ride: Flight?
Never wasted my money to get SM ... make it in NL and I will rate.

And oh yeah:

http://americacoasters.com/KBFConstruct ... ges/09.php

Very nice ... now show me the trim, cause there ain't nothing in that picture but a crane a an unfinished piece of track.

Originally posted by Xbox4414

^ Fogot about Kingda Ka's trim, even when I just posted that link on ACN...lol. So trim breaks can be curved, although they can't be curved left and right...in which mine is not.
I think he was saying that your track may not have been straight and shown a left to right tendency, but without riding it I could not definitely tell although your screen shots appear to show that - I was merely trying to offer some help to the lad.

Post January 17th, 2005, 5:47 pm
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Originally posted by TConwell

Originally posted by Xbox4414

The pic is of Silver Bullets trim install. They could install a trim there!
Could does not mean they did.

yes, but they could, witch means in the event that they do, it would be slightly curving upward...
but not all types of brakes can curve up or down, only the B&M types, and other types that touch the car on the bottom, meaning the schwartzh-whatever type brakes used in NL could not bend.

Post January 17th, 2005, 11:47 pm

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Originally posted by TConwell
Originally posted by Xbox4414

And think I don't know poop about coasters?
I think you are saying, "do I think you don't know anything about coasters."
Either way, I don't know, do you?


I sure as hell do especially B&M floorless coasters. I operated Medusa at SFMW and know every inch of that ride. I've been up the lift hill in the infield many times and every time I'm in the infield I see the INSTALLED trim. Which is right after the zero-g roll, and the exit of it is curved not straight. BTW there is no left or right movement on the trim of my coaster...so still his comment about a curved trim is point less. Also trims do allow for some movement left and right about an inch or two, very small amount but some. As they have to allow for possible lateral movements during that part of the section, especially during the exit of a zero-g roll. Also they have to allow for movement left and right in a trim due to bad wheels. And trust me there are only a few 'perfect' wheels on some coasters especially SF coasters as they are too expensive for SF's budget. They just keep the old wheels until the polyurethane wears down and by that time there is a lot of sideways movement. Go ride Scream or Medusa in row 8 and watch the cars in front of you they all have left and right movement, and separate movements thus showing something is up with the wheels or assembly, you will see the cars move left and right independently even when you are simply in a vertical loop, and if that happens you know that the train hasn't been rehabbed and needs a good one, because all cars should flow in motion. Thus B&M trims allow for very, very slight left and right motion and a noticeable amount of up and down movement.

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