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Post February 5th, 2005, 1:43 pm

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Hi there!
Totaly new project from me here!
i only got the track layout and the final plan build in photoshop..

please comments..

Image

Name: Not yet
Length: 766 meter
Inversions: Looping, Barrelroll
Speed launch: 85 kmph
Speed on track: 90 kmph
Release date: Unknown

Ciao!
Last edited by DJ tommy on February 24th, 2005, 12:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Post February 5th, 2005, 3:12 pm

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UPDATE!

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/1.jpg[/image]

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/2.jpg[/image]


[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/3.jpg[/image]


[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/4.jpg[/image]


[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/5.jpg[/image]


[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/6.jpg[/image]

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/7.jpg[/image]

Greetings :)

Post February 5th, 2005, 6:01 pm

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Not difficult seeing which real-life coaster that inspired you;) Looking good. HWhat is between the loop and the roll? Something cool?

Post February 6th, 2005, 3:55 pm
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Hmmmm, the layout is pretty good, but You have used tools in the rides construction, which for me is something that a coaster can be downrated for. Because you've used tools to construct the ride, the maximum rating you can get from me, even if the whole ride is perfect ... is an 8

Post February 6th, 2005, 4:21 pm
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[rant]
well, Gouldy, let me put it this way. The point of No Limits is not how you build the ride. Its how the ride turns out after your finished. If one decides to create a ride without using anything, good for him. But it would be impossible for them to make it perfect.
Now, as real has said before, Designers in real life don't toy around with No limits and try to make angles right, and geforces good, and everything. They make calculations and probably have thousands of tools to help them. I'm sure when B&M designed Talon, they did not make all 4,602 pages of calculations with out the use of tools, or computers, or calculators. You have the old rides (the John A. Millers that you don't seem to like) that are like no limits before the use of tools came out. And you don't like them because of w/e reasons(at least thats what you've told us). But now we have tools so now we can make our rides better than ever, and make them more Intamin & B&M like. This is the way that NL has evovled. So you choose to build the old fashion way, good for you, but if some one chooses to build with the tools they paid for, well good for them. You should never take into consideration on how they built it but what the out come in the end is.
[/rant]
As for the ride, it looks "smashing" and I would enjoy testing it if you ever decide to test it. Also, your above view shot was pretty cool, if I do say so myself

Post February 6th, 2005, 4:32 pm

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Originally posted by gouldy

Hmmmm, the layout is pretty good, but You have used tools in the rides construction, which for me is something that a coaster can be downrated for. Because you've used tools to construct the ride, the maximum rating you can get from me, even if the whole ride is perfect ... is an 8


I Did'nt and will never use tools like smoothing things out or something.. however.. where can you see it if i used tools??
I will put some new pics online soon.. :)
the second tunnel is done and now all we need to do is the track [:D]

UPDATE!

Note. Colors are not final!

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/8.jpg[/image]
Here is some wood to build the photoshop..

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/9.jpg[/image]
2nd tunnel entrance is finished.. all we need now is some gatework and were done here..

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/10.jpg[/image]

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/19.jpg[/image]

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/13.jpg[/image]

De inversions: The looping and the Barrelroll with a freaky twist [;)]

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/14.jpg[/image]

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/18.jpg[/image]

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/11.jpg[/image]
gates at the launchspot

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/15.jpg[/image]
Station under work..


[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/17.jpg[/image]
This corner will ride over the water..
[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/16.jpg[/image]
Overall sight...


Smoothing: - ######0000 - 60 % Done
Layout: - #########0 - 90 % Done
Supports: - ##00000000 - 20 % Done
Landscaping: - #####00000 - 50 % Done
3d Scenery: - #####00000 - 50% Done

Overall: - ###########000000000 - 55%

Post February 6th, 2005, 6:26 pm
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Ya I am a bit on the fence when it comes to using tools. Yea real coaster designers may use lots of tools, but are we real coaster designers? No! The only reason one should be using NL is for a hobby or for fun, unless Ole or another company is using it for coaster firm. IMO tools should either be universal (made for both macs and pcs, and free to all) or not available at all. Paying more for an advantage isnt fair, and I know life isnt, but where it can be made fair, it should. Plus after using NL for one year I have learned alot about geometry and the shapping and so on. Its like an education as well.

Post February 7th, 2005, 10:29 am

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Originally posted by Brtnboarder495

BLaablaablaaa...

I DIDN'T USED TOOLS!!!![:(!]



[:p][:D][8D]

Post February 7th, 2005, 12:11 pm

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UPDATE!

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/21.jpg[/image]
Exit's ready...

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/22.jpg[/image]
Entrance path is under construction...

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/23.jpg[/image]
Right view...

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/24.jpg[/image]
Left view...

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/25.jpg[/image]
And some nice screens from this beautiful coaster!
[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/26.jpg[/image]

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/27.jpg[/image]

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/28.jpg[/image]

Greetings! [:)]

Post February 7th, 2005, 12:48 pm
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The 'tool' you have used is the auto heartliner thing, or the hearliner help thing whatever the hell its called. Now, if you have used that which indeed I can see you have, obviously you need less effort to be put into the ride to make it superb. If this ride is perfect in every way then it gets rated a 10 right ... well what do you do if someone has made a completely perfect ride and not used tools? rate them 11? You can't do that, so you have to downrate rides that have used tools. I have a higher respect for people who use no tools and end up with a good ride, than I have for people who use toold and end up with an excellent ride, I'm sorry but thats the way I feel. Just because they will have put more effort in to the ride than the people using tools.

DJTommy has explained to me that what he has used is just a guide and it doesn't automatically heartline the track for him BUT, is he still not using something automatic which is of help to him? yes he is, therefor I cannot possibly rate this ride a 10, yes its possible for him to get a 10 in Adrenaline and in originality, but not a 10 for technical.

Post February 7th, 2005, 1:30 pm

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Honestly, who cares if he used tools or not??? If its a good coaster it should get a good rating!

Dj, the ride is looking pretty fun! But to be honest lol, I liked that first station better than that wood one. The wood one looks like it was just built with the boards from the NL Editor =/
But overall, this ride looks really fun :D

Post February 7th, 2005, 2:23 pm

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My 3ds floor has arrived!

With special thanks to: Cracklestudios :)


Before...
[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/voor.JPG[/image]


And now...
[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/na.JPG[/image]

[:D]

Post February 7th, 2005, 2:45 pm

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Originally posted by Fornication NationI liked that first station better than that wood one. The wood one looks like it was just built with the boards from the NL Editor =/


Oeps.. i forgot to mention.. the ride will be in the style of Wild West.. so therefor the wooden station..
BUT! i will not keep this station.. i'm gonna rebuild it in 3ds so it would look more like a real station :P

Post February 9th, 2005, 10:39 am

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And yet another update!..
With some screens i'm very proud of!!
well..the objects in the screens that i made myself.. NOTE. not all objects are ownmade [;)][8)]
Ok we now got the water in place.. so thats that..
And we've got a photo kiosk.. but i'm not satisfied with that.. so it will be changed..
And a new shiny black roof on the station!
enough talk! Screens!!

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/29.jpg[/image]

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/30.jpg[/image]

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/31.jpg[/image]

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/32.jpg[/image]

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/33.jpg[/image]

Smoothing: - #######000 - 70 % Done
Layout: - ########## - 100 % Done
Supports: - ###0000000 - 30 % Done
Landscaping: - ########00 - 80 % Done
3d Scenery: - #######000 - 70% Done

Overall: - ##############000000 - 70%

Greetings :)

Post February 9th, 2005, 2:25 pm

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Ok yeah that conrete floor looks ALOT better than that pure wooden one

Post February 9th, 2005, 4:19 pm

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What if I built a coaster that rates a "10", but I used tools so it now rates an "8", but the tools I used I created myself... would the coaster then rate a "15"? ;)

BJJB

[edit: ob_topic -- Your project looks like it's coming along quite nicely. It's interesting to see the screenshots showing the various stages of development. I'm looking forward to riding once you make it available.]

Post February 9th, 2005, 4:46 pm

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The scenery realy makes this ride look good. Now if the track work is good, I'm sure you got a winner here[;)]

Post February 9th, 2005, 6:47 pm

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I need 1 more tester for this ride.. how will it be??

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Post February 10th, 2005, 12:32 am

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I dont recall where NoLimits was a game and not a simulation? I also dont recall where there were rules as to how a ride has to be built.

ALL TOOLS require the track to be in very good shape before use. Hence, its NOT a magic wand. Some people will be too ignorant to every see this or accept this, even with the tons of examaples I have given and shown (not to mention Busters attempts) but to each his own.

But dont expect to get points because you hand do a ride completly. To me not using tools you either are doing it for your own challenge, or being ignorant of things out there to help in order to get others to rate your ride higher.



I just am completely puzzled as to when there were set rules in NL about how rides are to be crafted and when these rules came about. When there is a tool that does everything for you and turns crap into gold, Ill let you know. Because at that time, Ill quit NL. But obviously theres no truth to tools doing this.

Post February 10th, 2005, 4:27 am

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Originally posted by IntaminFan397

Looks awesome! I'll test it

IntaminFan397@gmail.com


Do you also got MSN? I need someone with MSN.. so we can chat about it and not mail about it.. it's a bit faster for me.. [8D][:)]

Post February 10th, 2005, 11:46 am

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Originally posted by Real

I dont recall where NoLimits was a game and not a simulation? I also dont recall where there were rules as to how a ride has to be built.

ALL TOOLS require the track to be in very good shape before use. Hence, its NOT a magic wand. Some people will be too ignorant to every see this or accept this, even with the tons of examaples I have given and shown (not to mention Busters attempts) but to each his own.

But dont expect to get points because you hand do a ride completly. To me not using tools you either are doing it for your own challenge, or being ignorant of things out there to help in order to get others to rate your ride higher.



I just am completely puzzled as to when there were set rules in NL about how rides are to be crafted and when these rules came about. When there is a tool that does everything for you and turns crap into gold, Ill let you know. Because at that time, Ill quit NL. But obviously theres no truth to tools doing this.


Exactly!

Post February 10th, 2005, 6:49 pm

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UPDATE!

I've build some lamps and trashcans.. just for the detail ;)
All ownmade..

screenies!

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/34.jpg[/image]
Check the details..
[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/35.jpg[/image]

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/36.jpg[/image]

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/37.jpg[/image]

[image]http://www.djtommyproductions.nl/Coasters/NEW/38.jpg[/image]

Greetings!

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Originally posted by DJ tommy

Do you also got MSN? I need someone with MSN.. so we can chat about it and not mail about it.. it's a bit faster for me.. [8D][:)]

Yep, my MSN address is IntaminFan397@hotmail.com

Post February 11th, 2005, 9:47 am

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Nice lamps. But it doens't look like the hook touch the other thing at top of them. Maybe it's just the screenshot, but thought I should mention it[;)]

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