unsure whats going on

Ok 30thgagt see this from our perspective a minute. If a staff member comfronts a member about rating there own rides the first thing they always say is 'my brother did it' It is basicaly the boy who cried wolf story. We've been hearing that 'it was my brother excuses for several years now' Furthermore, you honestly think it is fair for your brother to rate not one, but every single track of yours? All with high rates, with clearly the inetnt of getting higher ratings and therefore denying people of awards for there tracks. Also but you/your brother rating your tracks, what do you learn? You dont learn anything on how to build a better trackm which is exactly the reason for the ratings being there...to improve.

(Staff -- kill this for me if you think it is inappropriate.)

Attorney input (nervously):
30thgagt .... (this age is according to your profile) -- for a 25 year old I think you can rise above this and just admit the fault (that WWS has presented very gently) and press on ... really, I've been here for a year and this is not going to end well if you continue on this path my friend.

I downloaded it. And i was the first one who give a responce. I cannot speak for others. But it wasn't me!!

Hope my advice helped a bit.

Look, i am going to continue on this path, because I AM TELLING THE TRUTH! How is it fair to assume we are the same people because we have the same IP. I'm sure there have been people who have done this just to rate their own trcks, BUT I'M NOT! I am a very persistent person and don't like being labeled as a liar, when I am one of the most honest people you will ever come in contact with. I know how this may look, my cousin is an admin for 3 different car forum boards, and sometimes you admins really can't tell. So what you guys are saying just because me and the rest of my family members have the same mailing address too, we are all the same people too? Come on, admit it, youre just making assumptions now...you assume because you have heard this excuse before, that it applies here too....WRONG! We came on this site because we enjoy coasters, and now its turning into this. If there would be a way for us to prove we are different people, we will!

My dear lord. Do you not read my post? An IP address is basicaly the equivelent to a mailing address and confirms it comes from only one source/router. Are you just being ignorant and not realising even that it was your brother, it doesnt matter. Your notdoing yourself any good either way, you not learning or improving by your brother rating your track. All your brother is doing is giving your track a high rate to simply boost the score to make you look better. You can fight this battle as much as you want, but seriously what is the point? The combo of you and your brother have clearly wronged and your simply not willing to admit this. Trying to figh this battle further will simply make you come accross as an even bigger liar/cheat and certainly isn't going to put youin the good books with the staff for wasting our time!

No Edge ... put down the hammer ... for heaven's sake Nooooooooooooo!

Originally posted by 30thgagt

I am a very persistent person and don't like being labeled as a liar, when I am one of the most honest people you will ever come in contact with.

Too bad the original title of this thread was "LIAR!!" until you changed it to "unsure whats going on" ... pot, meet kettle -- kettle, meet pot.

Geesh man ... come on and let it go.

Great, now i can ask all my family to rate my track [:D]

I'll let it go when everything regarding to me and my brother being the same person, me being a cheat and a liar is taken down. I will not be labeled this way.

Great, i dont see a problem with it. He rated me with how he wanted, right? I dont see one thing wrong with that. If anybody else on here has a brother, sister, cousin whatever rating them , good....WHO CARES! You give me a valid excuse to why thats not fair, and just because people THINK its not fair is not a valid excuse. If he ever decides to fianlly build a coaster, i will rate him however i want, why?, because there is nothing wrong with that.

Originally posted by 30thgagt

Great, i dont see a problem with it. He rated me with how he wanted, right? I dont see one thing wrong with that. If anybody else on here has a brother, sister, cousin whatever rating them , good....WHO CARES! You give me a valid excuse to why thats not fair, and just because people THINK its not fair is not a valid excuse. If he ever decides to fianlly build a coaster, i will rate him however i want, why?, because there is nothing wrong with that.

Well, who cares? It looks like you do actually. I cant believe this thing made it to 3 pages of nonsense (excluding the Admins posts)

I would consider yourself lucky youve made it this far and still have your account. I personally sway to the side of zero tolerance because as WWS said, your timing on the issue was more than ominous.

But, hopefully this topic doesnt go any further. And I should shut up now

No, obviously everyone else cares way too much. Theyr'e all the ones saying its not fair for my brother to rate me...WHY NOT?

I cant believe this thing made it to 3 pages of nonsense (excluding the Admins posts)

...? I think WWS posts were full of nonesense too. Anyway, who cares? The people who are cheated out of well earned awards are the ones that cared. Im just going to lock the topic now. Score WWS 1 - Guy and Brother 0

[Oscar]

Originally posted by WeeWeeSlap

It's the process of getting to the truth. If you are being blamed for rating your own ride, and you say nothing about your brother rating until I present you with admin only proof of you and the other being one and then you stating it was your brother, how do you expect us to handle this? I am sure you wont mind your brother being disallowed from rating YOUR coaster as that is a biased rate in favor to you. You understand this, right? Come on, let's move along, I need to get on, the edge has gone to the hospitol so I am the only one here to assist this matter. Say, you agree to said statement above?

quoted myself from page 2

for the record, this is what I asked of you, the thing in bold, but you went on a tantrum and made it something else which I had willingly accepted as a valid excuse, but nope, you pushed the issue on something I had already given you the green light for. I am unlocking this topic to let you re-read what I posted and see if you can understand what I wrote, it's plain English and it's not wordy, right down to the point.

30thgagt
now to start things off, i dont have anything agaisnt you, but just get over it look at my tracks and ratings...i work my ass on every single ride, and look at my ratings all i know and care about is that i tryed, and i pm'ed about my coaster because u didnt fully give an explanation on how you rated my ride, so my advice is to get on with your life, come on now, how old are you? i know i may be seeming harsh, but u need to get over a little rate, now ask yourself this ? is this rate really worth your time? djavixxxx is a harsh rater, but he has many points from his rate, all you need to know is learn and grow from the rates he has given you to help you with your next ride...thats what i try to do and i respect everyone who has rated my rides because they took the time to actually help me in the future so my advice 30thgagt is to get over this rate and learn from it...thats all i have to say...

Originally posted by The Edge

I cant believe this thing made it to 3 pages of nonsense (excluding the Admins posts)

...? I think WWS posts were full of nonesense too. Anyway, who cares? The people who are cheated out of well earned awards are the ones that cared. Im just going to lock the topic now. Score WWS 1 - Guy and Brother 0

i agree with this...definitaly... get over it 30thgagt
and stop wasting you time about a "single rate" geez...

Originally posted by Real

I cant believe this thing made it to 3 pages of nonsense (excluding the Admins posts)

Geesh man .. I was merely trying to help the dude out of a tough spot with some sage "been there done that" advice ... sorry I tried to help a member out of what has now become a rediculous situation that I could see coming about two pages ago. Please forgive me. [V]

[Oscar]

Oh well, we'll be hearing from him soon, now can you guys stop replying and follow the sticky rule in the forum as it would still be one page most likely. Thank you.

TConwell, i think you have made yourself more clear than anyone else, thank you for that. And I wasn't just complaining about the one rate, if you people would go back and look, I was just bringing up the point of all of Dija's rates. I understand he is a tough rater, but I was just stating how sometimes he just rates some people a little too low....and I mean i've seen him give low rates on other tracks that were almost too low. If I would have known some of you would have made this into what it has turned in to, I would never have started this post, but at the same time I am still glad I did. Like I have stated, this started out just too see if I was the only one who thought this, and obviously I'm not, but thats all you guys had to say, but you all started blowing it out of proportion, assuming things about me, and acting like it was all about the one rate. I'm not mad at anyone and never was. I don't want anyone thinking of me any lesser or my tracks because of this, I know I don't or won't against any of you. Also, not like it really matters, but I have had a very stressful two weeks, and I've just been edgy about things.....so like i have said, I'm not mad at anyone here, and I hope the same goes for everyone towards me who has read this.

Well, it is true i can rate somethings a bit harsh, but i spend some time to rate. Also, check i'm not a noob (anyway im not an expert), but sometimes when noobs said "Oh great track" i don't see is the same.

Anyway, you can check im not always bad, my rates are not hight, but overall are not low-rates, except when i see a track really not worked, and this is your case with this track. Just do something better themed and more worked, and you will check im not as bad as you think

[Oscar]

Wuld you please stop beating around the bush and get to my solution? Did you not comprehend me?

I don't see what the big problem of letting him rate me is. When he came home from school yesterday, I showed him what was going on, and of course he blew a fit, so I don't know how much he will really be on here anymore. I'll do whatever since I'm the one posting coasters on here, but I'm sure he'll come on here and blow a fit.....if he does, don't hold that against me. But anyway, do whatever, at this point this has been all turned around on me anyway.

I'm already high on laughing gas, so make sure he includes loads of swear words and funny insults that will make us all have a good laugh at his expence!

Anyway, this case is kinda dribbling to a halt...just like this sentence

[Oscar]

He better not blow a fit [:)] We take care of those right away and it isn't pretty. Surely he can communicate in a humane manner like I have been doing so. But alas, whatever, bring it on, it can't be worse than what I've read from others.

Why dont you take a look at the end of pasge 3

[Oscar]

yes I can read, apparently you can't your own stuff, here's you being quoted

but I'm sure he'll come on here and blow a fit

Does my reply above not relate to your post, DOES IT NOT!!!! Also with your opening line as to not understanding what's the big problem with him rating you, well you obviously also did not read the numerous times mentioned earlier in this topic that the biased rating he will have is the problem. You do know what biased means, right? This could have ended a long time ago but you're the one dragging it along.