Is the Pope going to die soon?

[coolbeans326]

I say he is. He's constantly been going in and out of the hospital. And its funny how once Terri Shiva died, the media goes to the next dying person. Why is the media sick like that?

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Well his days are numbered, I can tell ya that.

The media just does it for ratings. Death is really all you see on the news now... Cause after this fizzles out we'll be back in Iraq and Isreal, watching soilders and innocents constatly dying. I havn't watched TV in almost a year, because most of it's crap like that, and it ticks me off.

P.S. Careful what some of you say. Some people are Catholic, and may take offence to some of the choices/comments said. We don't need to have an arguement over someone whos life is hanging on a balance beam. It wouldn't be right to do that...

Tycoonman

he may be the pope, but he's still human. his health has been on and off recently and it doesnt look good for him. i honestly hope he doesnt die, but from what's been happening, he might not have long left. its sad, but also he is the pope.. so most likely we can guess where he's going after death. although that might be good, death is always sad.

We all die one day...So unless the Pope is another son of god, i dont see him lasting much longer. It said on the news this morning his Heart and Kidneys had failed...so yeah... he will die soon

as The edge says, we are all going to die someday, it is just you dont know when. Good job you dont know what is coming ahead of you. thats how i think of it.

[Dirk_Ermen]

Of cource that guy is going 2 die. even some people want him killed. Wow, now i'm convinced he is going 2 die.

[hyyyper]

Why do people want to kill him, i'd say: wait a week and he'll be dead as a deadman

[Brtnboarder495]

He is as good as dead. It goes to show you that no one is so supreme that they can escape the laws of life.

[gouldy]

Dieing, Dieing, Dead

Who cares anyway, just a shame he wasn't killed when he got shot. I'm not 100% evil, its just you know, as long as religous people are unhappy, then I am happy. Its just as shame that when he dies, he'll be replaced by another pope, eurgh. Just think, if all the religous people everywhere died, everyone else would lead much happier lives. Then lets hope the next pope dies a lot quicker than this one .... that would be funny, well it would be for me. If you were offended by what I just said, I don't care [:)].

[hyyyper]

Getting a new pope ain't that hard, just learn the sentence "thank you for the flowers"

[Brtnboarder495]

Originally posted by gouldy

Dieing, Dieing, Dead

Who cares anyway, just a shame he wasn't killed when he got shot. I'm not 100% evil, its just you know, as long as religous people are unhappy, then I am happy. Its just as shame that when he dies, he'll be replaced by another pope, eurgh. Just think, if all the religous people everywhere died, everyone else would lead much happier lives. Then lets hope the next pope dies a lot quicker than this one .... that would be funny, well it would be for me. If you were offended by what I just said, I don't care [:)].

Yep, and when you think about it all wars were conflicted over religion or greed..... or oil in Bush's case

[gouldy]

Well there you go, instantly there would be one less reason for there being a war, therefore already there would be a lot more people happier because of there being no religon.

Being religious is foolish, being spiritual is not. (Ive got some really indepth thoughts on those 2 words...since I consider being a real christian being spiritual, not religious. Religiousness tends to be nothing but following rules, not a lifestyle)


So I agree, I think religion is stupid. I also think religion gets in the way of actually knowing God on a deeper level.

^Sorry, guys, but I'm not seeing any connection with the pope dying and global peace. Last time I checked, the Catholic Church (headed by him) opposses all violence/conflicts and has been doing so for many centuries. And, by the way, it seems morally objectable to wish death upon any person, especially if that person has committed their life to a sole religious calling.
"A lot more people happier because of there being no religion," aside from being poorly worded, seems to be little more than an attempt to convey that the masses agree with your own personal sentiment. you have already expressed your indifferent sentimentality, but impling that it applies to a much wider global sect is just speculation. In fact, I would say that more people would be upset if organized religion were to suddenly vanish. Historically speaking, state-induced atheism doesn't result in good citizen morale. Nor does using anarchy as a political strategy. As for conflicts with religion, nearly 100% of today's major military battles are not caused by any Christian sect, but by radical Islamic ideology. I'm not quite sure where you're deriving a notion of peace through destruction of pope from...
I believe Pope John Paul II is a good person, but his time here is coming rapidly to an end. It is irionic that a day after Terri Schiavo died, the pope slips into a coma. Just this past week he has issued statements that effectively said that human life is preciouusly/holy and should be maintained and protected at all costs. That certainly sounds like the type of person I'd want to assasinate...

edit: and I must have to agree with Real, at least on the level that organized religion, as with any other human institution, can and will be corrupted and used as a manipulation tool.

[gouldy]

actually, I meant if EVRYONE who was religous was to die, including people who worship God etc. not just religous figures such as the pope, so I meant that everyone left would be much happier that there was no religion left. I sort of agree with Real however, as the morals and values given by almost every religion are only good for everyone, but its the people who believe that there is a "being" that I'm talking about, the people that believe that only their religon is true when actually no religons are, the people who are willying to go to war because they believe that something in someone elses holy book contradicts something in their own holy book etc etc.

If religion hadn't come about in the first place, then I believe that everyone would be much happier, people would be getting on with their lives rather than ass kissing something that doesn't even exist. Can't they see going to church actually achieves nothing and their time would be better spent doing something constructive. The morals that religions teach us should be taught to everyone in school, but religion itself is actually just stupid.

nearly 100% of today's major military battles are not caused by any Christian sect, but by radical Islamic ideology.

Yeah...blame it on the Islams. Although those Islams are a bit crazy, i mean Allah must be one crazy guy if he wants people to blow themselves up in the name of peace. Lets face it the two reasons for war are Money and Religion, Bush is only fighting Iraq for the Oil money, and how long has there been civil wars in the middle east bought about by religion.

I'm also quite worried about some of the smart google ads that have come about from this topic...PetPeePee TM? Is Your Pet Sick?

Anyway...yeah..i'm waiting for TConwells reply...i know it's going to be awesome, im going to get my flame retardant just in case. Maybe a fire extinguisher for use on Gouldy

[gouldy]

at Edge.

Another thing, when I said that if there was no religion there would be less wars, rocketboy said that almost 100% of that was caused by Islam. Is that supposed to be an argument against what I said? Is Islam not a religion?

"And, by the way, it seems morally objectable to wish death upon any person, especially if that person has committed their life to a sole religious calling."

ahem, that would be the reason I'd want to see him dead then. Seriously, what a waste of life that is, someone worthwhile could have used his life instead but no, that spaz had to be born instead.

It will always be used as a manipulation tool. Adolf Hitler used it. He wasn't the first, and will not be the last.

The reason wars start is usually over land (Iraq invades Quwait)... then the leader of that country changes it from a border dispute to a holy war (Saddam refers to us as evil being that our country is more heavily populated with Christian faithed believers, and calls for Muslims to rise up and fight against us). This is to bring in more troops and sometimes morale. This is how most wars begin. If any of have ever watched the movie "All Quite On The Western Front", then you know exactly what I am talking about.

Sorry about my little history paragraph, I'm trying to become a history teacher, so I do that from time to time.

Tycoonman

Actually, being a christian (Christian, not to be confused with catholism, islam, jew) is much different. I do believe in one God, however, the way I live my life is quite a bit different from those other 3 major "religions"

I do not follow a religion, I follow a way of life. One that was laid out by Jesus. Not one that was laid out by man. What I follow takes practice, diligence and patience every single day of my life. Its not something I just do on Sunday or Wednesday, its everyday. This is what seperates those who are real from those who are fake. The people who make it a part of their lives and live it rather than those who do it "to feel good" as you speak of.


So dont worry, I totally agree, what religion has been made into these days is nothing more than "come to church, make yourself feel good, and your all set" So as you said, showing up to church doesnt do anything unless you go there with the intentions of taking whats given to you, learning and applying it to your life. Which is basically what you are saying with preaching the morales in school.


Obviously these are my beliefs, but Christians, those who follow the way of life and not a bunch of rules man created, they dont act like the other 3 religions at ALL.

This is why I question Bush's "Christian" beliefs. While I would FIGHT for what I believe, I am not going to fight untill attacked first. Nor am I going to start a fight. I will let the other person determine if they want me dead or not, for I dont care if I die.



My basic definitions:

Religion: A code of rules formed by man for other men to follow. A feel good approach to being spiritual that requires minimal effort.

Christianity (Spiritual): A way of life set before us by God though His son Jesus that is not only extremely high in morale values, but strong emphasis on EVERYDAY growth and everyday growth in your relationship with God.

Opposite that of religion which only requires you to follow rules and traditions. Christianity is about the constant breaking of tradition, not letting yourself settle into any one pattern where you just "Go through the motions". Which is another phrase I use to classify religion.

[hyyyper]

Something else (wich is quite funny), the people that believe in the afterlife always get the question: "Why are you so sure about the afterlive, nobody has ever came back and told us?"
But when people (say they) whent to heaven or hell or some thing else, nobody believes them...

[coolbeans326]

and he just died at 10:00 something.
also, if Christianity was a religion about rules, I would be burning in hell.

It is sad that he died, but don't mourn his death, celebrate his life.

Originally posted by thecool326

and he just died at 10:00 something.
also, if Christianity was a religion about rules, I would be burning in hell.

Well, there are "Rules" but they are mearly supposed to be integrated into a lifestyle so that its more of a relationship rather than a bunch of rules, its quite different.

Plus, everyone is offered the chance to not burn in hell. So for one to say theyve done things that cant be forgotten, thats a false statement.


Yes, the Pope has died.
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