Match-up.... new system or old system?

There has been alot of debate over whether having 2 person matches and 3 person matches at the same time is fair.

Old System: The match-up brackets required a limited number of entries to keep the pairings perfect, (4,8,16,24,32,48, or 64), and then there was a list of reserves for everyone that signed up late in case no tracks were submitted in a certain group.

New System: Everyone that signs up competes in the contest, and the highest ranked losers in each round are the reserves. However, in the first round there are a few mis-matches because of the imperfect number of contenders. (44 in this case)

Experimental System: Let everyone compete in the first round with no pairings at all, and then take the top 16 tracks to the actual brackets, then follow up like the NCAA and use the rankings to set up the brackets. The highest ranking losing tracks are the reserves.


So, which system do you prefer? The result of this vote will determine what format the qualification for the contest will use next year. If #3 is the winner, the current match-up contest will be re-formatted to use the top 16 tracks instead of the matches.


POLL WILL CLOSE AT MIDNIGHT ON APRIL 20, and tracks for round one of the Match-up Contest will advance based on the results. We will either take the top 16, or the 16 winners of the rounds. It's up to you.

[coolbeans326]

I like the old system better. That way it limited the people. But my second choice would be qualifying match, so that way you get the best competition for the first round, and the better designers aren't left out if the spots are already filled.

I like the expirimental system, however I'd consider raising the number to 32.

If we started the contest earlier in the year, 32 would definitely be the number. However, assuming that everyone will be out of school by June 5, we needed to shorten it a bit this year. 16 is the number this year. 32 is good for next year, though.

[Dirk_Ermen]

the new system sounds nice, but the experimental also.

I would choose new system cause: Even if you drop out you still can have the possibillity to keep in the contest.
and the experimental cause: some people don't send so with the other systems you can have whole groups that didn't send a track. On this way you actually sort the builders from the not builders.

Dirk: Yea, that's my thought as well. Would not surprise me if many don't submit tracks. I can see problems with the current system if, say, neither in a group of 2 submits.

To clarify: when niether contestant submits a track, in systems 2 and 3, the highest ranking losing track moves on to the next round in place of the would-be winner from that match-up.

ok

Question: As it looks like the experimental system will be used.... How will the brackets be made?
1 vs 16
2 vs 15
3 vs 14
etc. ?
So the two (or four) that build the best two (or four) tracks won't collide before the final?

Buster.

in therory, yes. it would be like the sweet sixteen, where you have 4 brackets, with the sides being like this:
1 v.s. 16 winner plays 8 v.s. 9 <bracket 1
4 v.s. 13 winner plays 5 v.s. 12 < bracket 2
2 v.s. 15 winner plays 7 v.s. 10 <bracket 3
3 v.s. 14 winner plays 6 v.s. 11. <bracket 4

then either youd have the winner of bracket 1, 2, 3 and 4 face off in the final 4, or youd have it so that the winner of bracket 1 v.s. bracket 4 plays the winner of bracket 2 v.s. 3 in a final one-on-one showdown to determine the champion.

hopes that makes sense.

Seeing as how Buster is german, I highly doubt he follows american college basketball

[Dirk_Ermen]

i'd would more say: top 16, will be put against 8 groups, winners from that to 4 groups, those winners to 2 groups, and those winners are in the final..

Everytime groups of 2 ppl.

I would just prefer the sytem we are using instead of messing up the comp in mid flow!

[hyyyper]

i think you should have changed the system before the game, not when the game has already started, if you use the system in the next match-up that's fine with me, but not during this contest

Buster and ragan are correct. Here is how the brackets will be set up.



no, there is no error in the finals... it will be the top 4 in a giant coaster slugfest... [;)]

Aren't you missing a round there? Shouldn't it be 16 > 8 > 4 > 2 > 1 instead of 16 > 8 > 4 > 1 as you have it drawn?

After the first 2-3 round everyone starts to loose interest...having 5 rounds i doubt many people would submit a track

[Brtnboarder495]

Hmm, I really cant make a say here, seeing as my simulator is beyond f***ed, thank you to my video card and its crappy driver. I hope to be able to compete in the competition, but as of now, its lookin hopeless.

Originally posted by The Edge

After the first 2-3 round everyone starts to loose interest...having 5 rounds i doubt many people would submit a track

I somehow doubt that, considering how the competition will get better.

Judging by previous experiences people do loose interest Last year we never even reachd the finals. We got to the semi's and only one person evern submitted a track...deaming them the winner. Again that was only 2-3 rounds...so really having more than that imo isn't feasable due to lack of interest

There were also a lot less people who joined last year. People will probably lose interest, but not after a couple rounds....4 or 5 rounds sounds fine to me.

4 rounds are the maximum, due to the following reasons:

• Adding another round might interfere with some members' summer vacations.
• The intensity of the competition is sustained
• The past 2 years, we have never had a 1 on 1 match and the contest would have been dead if we did.
• We don't want this contest to be a marathon, right?

If peeps lose interest just remind them of the reward.

I think the braket idea sounds cool only if there is a second contest to it. The best designer gets points like normal, and the person with the closest braket prediction gets points, just like college basketball brakets.