Black Mamba

[Dirk_Ermen]

lol, well there is told that the final helix will pull 5g, but that B&M wanted to get Rid of that and make it less but phantasialand said that it had to stay. so over-enineering? probably not [pshades]


edit:

Next piece of the lift is put into place [:)]







more in here:
http://www.phantasialand-bruehl.de/park ... ml#neueste

Looks fun, too bad I'm not anywhere near there. I'm still hoping CP will get something for next season.

Originally posted by Dirk_Ermen

lol, well there is told that the final helix will pull 5g, but that B&M wanted to get Rid of that and make it less but phantasialand said that it had to stay. so over-enineering? probably not [pshades]

OOOOoooo... 5gs sounds intense. Looks like a good coaster for me [:D]. Maybe one day I'll take a trip to Germany.

[coolbeans326]

Originally posted by Jimmy Yoshi

to pretty much engineer everything to get rid of high G forces and such. Like they did on Silver Bullet. I hear that ride is about as thrilling and intense as a family mine train.

Well you heard wrong, Silver Bullet is very thrilling, the only problem is the fun does not stay like on Ghost Rider. Ghost rider is consistantly about the same fun level. But on Silver Bullet, you sort of get used to the g forces after the hundreth ride on it (which is why there should be more air time on rides, because its always fun) But its still a very fun ride. And you should not say its not fun unless you've actually been on it. I think every ride is fun, may not be the best, but is fun. Silver bullet does have high g forces, as well. On the helix, it has a sustained ammount of ge forces at about 3.5 g's! It might not sound like much, but its enough that if strong g forces are your kind of thing, then it should satisfy you. Anyways, from what I've heard of this park, it sounds like this could be a potential winner, and hopefully it will be on par with Nemesis and Katun. But who knows, I do hope though, that one day I'll be able to come I ride it though.

[Dirk_Ermen]

and yes! Top of the lift is there!



cool! [pshades]

Its very hard to take a ride with a more compact layout like that and tame it down.

Almost all of the smaller inverts are very powerful. Only a few of the large ones pull good G's.


Its not all about G's though...if you fly through the track so fast that you have no clue what happened, what is it worth? Its all about the balance.

How did I know I would start some kind of disagreement by saying that. Ohh welll... Gues I should ride the coaster before I say something about it, even if I read it. BTW Black Mamba is really shaping up to be a winner. Hope it meets and/or exceeds our expectations.

IMO this looks like one of the most intresting coasters for 06. Another inverted in the same category as Nemesis? That sounds great. And the fact that its phantasialand means that the theming will be top notch.

^^ If you fly through the track and have no idea what is happening it feels incredible. Thats what its like on your first ride on nemmy with great forces everywhere, near misses, and incredible elements. If this is as good as nemesis then i will have to get there to ride it. Although i hope the latyout isnt like that drawing i saw, i mean it would be good but then it doesnt look like a nemesis beater. But i suppose you cant tell from that anyway, it might fly through that. [:D]

[Dirk_Ermen]

another photo from the top of the lift:


You can see that the supports are going through the backbone. Cool [:)]

[hyyyper]

i wonder what kind of suprises b&m will put on their newest invert besides that support-tru-backbone thing

[gouldy]

The support going through the spine looks a bit shite to me, I prefer the way it usually is [;)]

something like that is also at the bottom of silver star's lift. I somewhat like it:p. well, looks really good so far and will prolly will be worth visiting ext year.

That looks weird. I wonder why they did that. Surely there is a reason, they wouldnt just do it for fun would they??? Or maybe they would. Ther could be some themeing going right on the top of the lift hence the reason for the change in supports. I dont really have a clue. Maybe theres no significant reason at all.

That support that runs sideways looks pretty close to the track...Footchoppers! [:D]

lol, Or maybe it hold up the lift catwalk.....

[Dirk_Ermen]

Originally posted by jpecool

That looks weird. I wonder why they did that. Surely there is a reason, they wouldnt just do it for fun would they??? Or maybe they would. Ther could be some themeing going right on the top of the lift hence the reason for the change in supports. I dont really have a clue. Maybe theres no significant reason at all.

it's for saving costs on supports.

^Really, how much money could that save. I don't mind the idea of it but, how does it save money? Less steel to manufacture?

Probably less work goes into making it that way too.

[coolbeans326]

Originally posted by RcMannAE86

^Really, how much money could that save. I don't mind the idea of it but, how does it save money? Less steel to manufacture?

yeah, I think it does save money. Who knows how much it saves, but some saved money on it can go towards good use into theming, or something like that.

I bet that there are less bolts to connect with the track that way. It probably also goes together faster because of there being less bolts.

Originally posted by hyyyper

i wonder what kind of suprises b&m will put on their newest invert besides that support-tru-backbone thing

Nothing new.

Top support on Talon
http://www.rcdb.com/ig735.htm?picture=2

[coolbeans326]

I never noticed that before.

Me neither, and ive looked at pics of Talon so many times. LOL.

[Dirk_Ermen]

http://freizeitparkweb.de/cgi-bin/dcf/d ... &viewmode=

There are some consturction pictures of adding the stairs from Black mamba [:)] Starts to look better every picture [:D]