RMC Ruining the Wooden Coaster?

I don't think RMC is ruining anything, because they're rides are actually terrific. If anything, it's Six Flags that ruins wooden coasters which is why they end up being candidates for Ibox in the first place. Big, Commercial companies (Six Flags, Cedar Fair) do terrible jobs with providing proper funds to maintain their wooden coasters (beyond the standard yearly work just to keep them running).

Six Flags/RMC have at least come up with a creative way to get themselves off the hook while re-selling these coasters as smooth and laced with airtime. I'll take this over spinal injuries any day of the week.

mrcrolly wrote:

Why is RMC being known as a bad thing for wooden coasters? To be honest, the only reason why people are complaining is because RMC renovated Colossus and Cyclone... People who have never ridden the rides are thinking they are gold for what they are. Well let me tell you one thing, Cyclone was at a constant 10mph for almost 70 percent of the ride.. Idk about colossus, but thats pretty slow from the POV's too. RMC is restoring coasters that are meeting their demolition point. It isn't ruining wooden coasters, its saving them in a new fashion. I do agree though that rides like El toro, Boulder Dash, and The Voyage DO NOT need to be RMC'd, as they are good as is

For what it's worth I liked Cyclone. Very out of control and 2 crazy drops. It's in my top 15 of 55 or so wood coasters.

[Paradox]

Cyclone holds many memories for me so it was very sad for me to let it go.

I used to ride it alot, but come on, it wasn't that good. The fast parts were the drop, the turn, and the second drop. You would go back up at an insanely slow rate around the curve.. Then another drop.. And then the rest of the ride was insanely slow.. It didn't maintain it's speed and it was very rough depending on where you sat. I think RMC was a great replacement for a good ride, but it needed to go. Especially with all the changes that made it less tense

I think the RMC rennovations are a case by case scenario. For parks that need a new thrill and have a wooden coaster thats lost it popularity then its absolutely perfect. But not all wooden coasters need such a treatment.

Of course Cyclone will be way better now, but one thing I did like about the previous ride that isn't being preserved is the height of the track and how it was used to create larger drops than one would expect. I think the slowish pacing was more of a problem because there wasn't enough payoff in each of the drops and the sections that followed. Maybe it wouldn't get quite as good of a reception than the current design where pacing is emphasized over drops. However, for me the most interesting design would've been one that increased lift height in order to have a bit faster pacing, but still emphasized severe drops like the old design. This idea would improve on the old with the smooth tracking, strong airtime on all drops (whereas some of the existing ones had none), and a fast paced final 1/3 like the current iteration.

Basically I think the original Cyclone had an amazing and unique design, with mediocre execution, and the new version should have the same amazing and original design, and with excellent execution...but I think they lost some of the unique design aspects in translation.

RMC is not ruining anything. Whether you like the designs or not, they are no different than any other company that came out with a new design. As far as reprofiling older coasters that's not new either. Morgan reprofiled my favorite coaster of all time years ago, oh well... Not to mention three of the reprofiled coasters RMC did for Six Flags were previously reprofiled to begin with. Cyclone, Rattler and Colossus all had work done before RMC so none of them gave their original rides as it is. What I don't understand is why they debuted such out of the box elements for wooden coasters and they are already getting stale.

^ Because RMC is building what parks are asking for. And parks are looking at what's out there and deciding they want something similar for their park. I'm sure RMC would gladly change it up if that's what a park wanted. But that likely won't happen until they can move beyond their exclusive deal with SF.

[TTD03]

mrcrolly wrote:

Why is RMC being known as a bad thing for wooden coasters? To be honest, the only reason why people are complaining is because RMC renovated Colossus and Cyclone... People who have never ridden the rides are thinking they are gold for what they are. Well let me tell you one thing, Cyclone was at a constant 10mph for almost 70 percent of the ride.. Idk about colossus, but thats pretty slow from the POV's too. RMC is restoring coasters that are meeting their demolition point. It isn't ruining wooden coasters, its saving them in a new fashion. I do agree though that rides like El toro, Boulder Dash, and The Voyage DO NOT need to be RMC'd, as they are good as is

I rode the original colossus, it was a really cool ride, and TV famous. Did it need to go? No. Was Six Flags done paying for new wood to fix it up every year, yes. Which is why Twisted Colossus will exist now.

Good point^^ I cant argue because I've never ridden it

[Mr. Freeze]

Same here

[Dirk_Ermen]

Only rode New Texas Giant and that ride was totally missing something. Even as a steel coaster it felt like it was missing something. I hope to do next summer a trip past a bunch of those RMC coasters. Since it's hard to base off a ride company from just riding one coaster. But from the first impression with NTG, it wasn't good.

^I agree that NTG cannot live up to the hype, but Iron Rattler is the opposite case. Iron Rattler is fathoms better than NTG and is an essential example of the superiority of this company. Rattler.... becomes Iron Rattler. It's like beating an aggressive cancer and then winning the lottery simultaneously. They take a negative and make it a positive. And you can't blame RMC for the fact that wooden roller coasters are disappearing for their make over projects.... when Six Flags decides that a wooden roller coaster isn't going to run anymore, that's the final decision. You can't be angry at RMC for that...

IRON RATTLER IS THE F***ING KING.

[Mr. Freeze]

Have to agree with you guys on that. NTG does indeed lack something. That comes with being the first of its kind in the world, but IRAT is tons better overall

[Paradox]

Well in my eyes NT(A)G was a prototype and was just a test.

[Mr. Freeze]

We are not bringing back the NT(A)G stuff again

[mkingy]

Request - word filter of NT(A)G or NTAG to NTG

[TTD03]

^ Request has been recieved and is being processed. You should recieve a response in 3-5 business years.

[Paradox]

RMC needs 2 die coz dey b ruin wood coaster dat I leik and wen I woz at SDC dey close down Outlaw RUn on purpush so I couldn't reid it.

^What should we save first? The wooden coasters or the English language ?

[Dirk_Ermen]

Coaster Hero wrote:

^What should we save first? The wooden coasters or the English language ?

Wooden Coasters, definitely. English language has already been killed by Americans years ago.

[Paradox]

In all honesty I convinced my family to take a trip to Branson just to ride Outlaw Run and when we arrived we found it to be closed the whole day and the next day when it ran perfectly the day before.

[TTD03]

^ ouch.

I don't think that RMC is necessarily ruining the wooden roller coaster. Rather, they're basically creating a new breed of woodies. Outlaw Run and Goliath are both wooden coasters that push the limits of what wood can do, and they both do a lot of things that other wooden coaster manufacturers can't (at least for now). I think that these RMC coasters will become more popular in the next few years, but I doubt we will see that traditional wooden roller coaster die off because the vast majority of wooden coasters out there are still in the traditional form, and we still have manufacturers like GCI and The Gravity Group making them, so I wouldn't worry about traditional woodies going anywhere.

rmc is basicly turning the crappy rides in the world and making them the best rides in the world