Supports

Hey peeps,

Everybody is familiar with it. You've just build the best track ever, smoothed it out perfectly and you want to show off to the other WeeWeeSlapians. But hey, you need to make the supports, and the track is 10000 feet long! That will take you a week if you need custom supports, and then you only have the very basic ones without any strenght.
So here's my idea:
Let's make a support cloner. You just make a shape with supports, for example the widely used cube, and then you "save" it as a supportfile. Then you can just add the cube to the excisting supports as many times as you want by simply pressing the "insert" button.
That was the brilliant idea, but it need to be worked out, so we can actually use it. I started programming it, but it turned out to be shiz (sorry, excuse my French). Can someone give it a try? I'm sorry, but I don't have my program anymore, when my computer crashed, it wasn't on a backup, dus it died a slow and painfull death in my memories...
That was about it. Anyone who wants to give it a try?

Indi, the one with the good ideas and the bad performance (and the bad English)

-post in the correct forums-

[hyyyper]

you actually programmed a support copier?

Yeah, but at first it didn't do what it was made for, and after that it was so hard to work with that placing the supports by hand was faster, and after that it just sucked...

Now I see! You want it for Troy don't you? Nope, you just have to do it by hand to make the satisfaction even bigger [:D]

If this program ever takes root, can I make a logo/icon for it? lol.

But you might consider talking to buster about the coding. I'm sure he could help you with that.

Who's buster?

Interesting; though I highly doubt you made one by yourself, and it just so happened to "get lost" with the crash.

No. Bad idea. These "advancements" are exactly the thing that are pulling NoLimits away from being a fun challenge.

Don't be lazy, damn it. NoLimits is supposed to make you work. If you want everything to be done for you without ever having to touch the editor, tool your rides and get someone to support them for you.

Originally posted by indi

Who's buster?

More proof that you don't know what you're doing.

Even if your track is 10000 feet long, it's still worth doing your own hand supports with it. Not only will it look great, but you will also have that satisfaction of doing all of your own work.

Guys, come on!

If you want to hand build every single part of your ride, thats fine! It's not like this applictation will remove the ability to make your own supprts! If it works, fine, you don't have to use it. But there are some people who would.

I think it is a great idea.

Buster is a NoLimits designer and software programmer, the same one who made the AHG. You can probably contact him over on CS, and I'm sure he would help you out. His username is xXBusterXx.

[hyyyper]

indi, I'm won't be using it for Troy. You see, if you make a support copier, it'll copie the support exactly. Now in the whole of Troy there are maybe 6 or 8 supports that are the same. Everything else has different angles, heighst and style.

And if you are not customsupporting a woodie, support are a peace of cake, just have a little devotion.

Originally posted by hyyyper

just have a little devotion.

The bottom statement of desiging. Thank you, hyyyper [^]

Maybe it it's true what you all say, maybe I was too lazy. But I was just trying some day, and I was programming a bit (while I was at my computer lessons at school, we do program there a lot), and then I thought I had something. So I started working out, and it eventually kind of worked a bit, but then I was stuck. I asked my dad, who is a software engineer / programmer and he helped me, and we made it a family project.
So finally it was done, and that was about 9 days before my computer overheated. My motherboard was bent more than the top of the average floater hill. So I was MAD at my computer, but I never started over.

Oh, and Hyyyper, it doesn't copy them exactly. You can set a hight, for example 20 feet, and then you select a part of the track, and then you select width, for example 40 feet. If you activate the program, there will be a horizontal support at 20 feet above the ground under every part of the selected piece of the ride where the track isn't lower than 22 feet. And there's a node every 40 feet, so after completing the horizontal supports, you can say how you want the vertical ones, and then he connects all the nodes in the right way.

It took about 400 - 500 hours to build, and still it didn't have a good interface, and it failed sometimes too, but it still had a succes rate of about 90 - 95%. Therefor I'm not too happy with people like Tiepilot, who doesn't believe me, or Gerstl, who's calling me lazy. On the other hand, thank you Halo and Hyyyper for at least being nice or telling me not to do it in a nice way.

Indi

Hey, I think it's a really good idea.

Unfortunatly, I think the only way to re-make this program is for you and your dad to try again (and this time, maybe buy an external hard drive and back up the software). I will be happy to work with you on an interface, if you would like.

Maybe we'll try that, but at the moment, I'm working on something else. Still not going to tell you all what it will be, because if this fails too, I don't want to make another fuss about it on WWS.
If, on the other hand, it DOES work, you'll be the first to know.

BTW, WWS, will you close the topic please? The construction on the program stopped for now, so will you please close it?

[hyyyper]

why lock it? if nobody posts it'll disappear in the archives. If you decide to come back to it, just dig this topic up and continue.
Good luck on that other program

Originally posted by indi


Maybe it it's true what you all say, maybe I was too lazy.

Originally posted by indi


Therefor I'm not too happy with people like Gerstl, who's calling me lazy.

You admit maybe you were lazy, and therefore aren't happy with people that call you lazy? [confused]

[Kev]

Someone who spends their time and effort in creating a tool to make a job easier should hardly be considered lazy. I think 'innovative' would be a more proper word for it.

I'd abuse the hell out of this tool if it existed. I hate doing supports with a passion.

wow... 400-500 hours of work...
With an estimate of 4 hours/day that's 100-125 days straight (4 months). Not doing a backup of the code is a lesson learned, I guess.

BTW: How did the programm do the copying anyway? Did it somehow hook into the NL-Editor or did it render a loaded track and had it's own 3d editor?

Hmmm... Two weeks and no answer? I wonder why.

if your motherboard is toast you Hardrive where all the codes are saved is prob still working. just hook it up to another pc.

Originally posted by indi



BTW, WWS, will you close the topic please? The construction on the program stopped for now, so will you please close it?

My god, u sound like my ex, thats something he would wine about

Grrrrr don't get me started on that sniveling little childish twat

[TheArchitect]

i cant believe this is happening.

Yes supports are boring and tedious, but man are you happy with the result! Same with smoothing, its painful to do, heartlining, also painful.

But with everything, most people (if done properly) are happy with the results. Knowing they put in the effort, and pulled it off.

But no, lazy idiots that humans are have to make tools.

Its too boring smoothing, lets geek it out and build a smoother.
Oh, painful heartlining, lets make a AHG.
now POOR ME, lets make a supporter.

Get a LIFE people, nothing comes easy, sometimes you have to WORK for it!