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Post February 14th, 2010, 8:42 pm

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T-Very nice job on the supports and trackwork. No major pumps at all, just a few very minor ones here and there.
A-Interesting concept, but the barrel rolls kind of got boring. It would have been nice to see some other types of inversions besides all those barrel rolls. It was cool the way the track is all of a sudden high off the ground and you get that soaring feeling.
O-Great idea, but too much like volcano. Maybe if there were different elements other than the repetitive barrel rolls, it would be a bit more original.

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This was posted by kevmm for hzgarfield's Sonic the Hedgehog's Tropical Rush (http://www.coastercrazy.com/track_exchange/detail.asp?tid=16562)

He gave the ride a 7.83...
Oh, were you expecting something here?

Post February 14th, 2010, 10:07 pm
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I have asked for a second opinion from the honorable Judge Oscar on this matter. While it is the job of this court to moderate track rates and revoke those that blatantly violate ethical standards or site rules. I cannot say that a rating of an "8" in this case qualifies for dismissal.

If you have further information to justify why the rating should be removed I am all ears. Until then, motion to dismiss the rate is denied.

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Post February 14th, 2010, 10:12 pm

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Agreed, that is one of the biggest underrates of the century. This ride resembles Volcano very little.


This was posted by Slopsprint in agreement.

To the too many barrel rolls person:
This track is probably twice as long as Volcano with only 1 more barrel roll. In addition it has two overbanked turns and a corkscrew. If you think that's too much, then fine, but please consider rides like the sitdown loopers.


This was posted by CoasterkidMWM, the creator of the track for this ride.
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Post February 14th, 2010, 10:17 pm
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The rate is within +/- 1.5 points of the average rate for the track. While I agree the rate is on the low end it is not a blatant foul. I will give the plaintiff until 2/15/2010 to appeal, otherwise the motion to dismiss the rate is denied as moot.

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Post February 14th, 2010, 10:39 pm
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Wait, who's the plaintiff in this situation? kevmm or me?
Boulder Dash was the only good roller coaster.

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Post February 14th, 2010, 10:43 pm
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Post February 14th, 2010, 10:44 pm
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Oh, ok, lemmie read the rate again because I completely forget what he said.
Boulder Dash was the only good roller coaster.

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Post February 14th, 2010, 11:13 pm
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Ok, here is my case (although I didn't know I would have to present one). I have no problems with his technical rating although he could have written a bit more on that subject. The problems that I saw were with his adrenaline and originality ratings.

Problems with the adrenaline rating:

1: He complains about the repetitiveness of the barrel rolls. As CKMWM put it, this ride only has 1 more barrel roll than Volcano yet is nearly twice the length.

2: He complains that there are no inversions other than barrel rolls yet right after the launch there was an immelmann and there was a corkscrew later in the ride. I could have sworn there were more, but I'm on my laptop right now so I can't check because NL is on my desktop.

3: in his adrenaline sections he didn't even mention most of the main factors, such as the two launches and the scenery.

Problems with the originality rating:

1: He claims the ride is too much like Volcano. While I can see where he might get this idea, he failed to note that more than half of the ride did not resemble volcano in the slightest. The layout was different, it had more of a variety of elements, and after the MCBR nothing about it looked anything like Volcano

2. As I said before, there were more than just barrel rolls, in fact there was quite an assortment of elements.

3. I think he mistakes building in the style of an Intamin invert for copying other rides and being unoriginal. He mistook building realistically for building unoriginally (spellcheck is yelling at me for that one).

Anyways... to sum things up I thought it was an underrate...
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Post February 15th, 2010, 12:16 am

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"Agreed, that is one of the biggest underrates of the century."

Wow, that's a bit too far. I don't think it's that low of a rate. It's just shy of one point under what the average is. It may be a tad on the low side yes, but too low, no. I think the rate should stand.

Post February 15th, 2010, 12:22 am

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I don't necessarily agree with everything the rater says, but I'd rate the track at around the same score. Seems like decent rationale for his scores...I don't think the barrel rolls would be repetitive for me, but I can see where someone might think so. The inflence was also clearly Volcano (as also said by the track designer to me a few hours ago) so can you not see where he's coming from there?

Post February 15th, 2010, 2:58 am

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LOL thats not very far from and underrate at all. Its no Breaking Point or anything[;)] but its not that bad either. Id say a 7.50 is a low, but reasonable rating.

Post February 15th, 2010, 3:29 am
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I think its a fine rate. It is very well explained. Dont agree with it, too bad.

Post February 15th, 2010, 11:25 am
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motion for summary judgment or trial by jury.
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Post February 15th, 2010, 5:30 pm
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Plaintiff has failed to state a claim for which relief may be granted. The defendant has broken no rules, and the rate is within acceptable limits. The motion for trial by jury is allowed but is otherwise denied as moot.

Case Dismissed.
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