Baron argument ***

I'm getting sick of people arguing about my ride in the rating section, so for the time being lets just make a topic about it.

This is the debate-

Brtnboarder seems to think he knows everything about b&m hypers. He claims my ride is unoriginal, unrealistic, and forceless. He also states that b&m's have massive airtime (over -1.0) very frequently. He seems to be set in his ways, and wont relent. He previously rated my ride a 6.67, which is now removed for obvious reasons, however he still continues to argue inside my rating topic.

It would be great if people could post some force graphs, and articles about b&m hypers, cuz i really want to see this ego-brain be put to rest...

They dont go over -0.5 im sure. I'll have a look for some force graphs for you.

[hyyyper]

Since when is it a rule to have EXACTLY the same force as other rides of the manufacturer?

If I want to build a B&M, I want to build it MY way and if I want -1,5, I will bloody let nobody stop me from building a hill with -1,5.

Now, if this was a recreation it would be a different matter, but if the G's aren't super-boring or lethal, then no points should be deducted.

the g's on the ride are close to b&m standards. if not, maybe a little stronger.

^^Well, than it wouldn't be B&M anymore...
It's quite simple, really...
If you say it's a B&M it should be a B&M, not a "coaster-that-looks-like-B&M-but-really-isn't", with forces that exceed B&Ms limits.
If it's not B&M, it's not B&M

I wanna see graphics of G readings, otherwise, this whole debat is lame as hell. PS, anyone on here who can guess the Airtime of the Chinese woody Fireball? ;)

Brtnboarder is and I quote, "Stupid-ass backwards".

^ i totally agree. He seems to think he's perfectly correct though. All i know is, i've seen lots of proof that he's wrong, and he hasn't shown any proof to back up his statement.

Well, when me and Ben were working on a hyper, he stumbled upon a graph showing forces for Hollywood Dream:the Ride, and the maximum air that thing pulls was -0.24 or something...
Can't find the graph right now tho...

I think this calls for an official title change topic for him.

[AyTrane]

That would have to be in the back seat for sure.

I think it was front...

Brtnboarder also keeps mentioning how much more intense the intamin hypers negative g's are, but i tend to believe B&M to have more air. Either way it was a good coaster and Brtnboarder needs to stop raining on the parade.

I think that brtnboarder is a big steaming pile of bullsh!t.

I made a topic for Brtnboarder. Would be nice to see some posts...lol

You're all whiney pansies.

Brtnboarder is just a dumb whiney pansy.

[Oscar]

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[Coasterkidmwm]

OK ........ jesus christ

**slaps forehead**

Why don't you all get hammered or something fun? I'm ashamed to have participated in this kind of crap in the past.

^ i think you are seriously the biggest internet asshole I've ever come across... i sent you a very friendly PM. I was just answering your rude "bitch at me for it" comment.

Originally posted by GerstlCrazy

You're all whiney pansies.

Brtnboarder is just a dumb whiney pansy.

agreed

[Coasterkidmwm]

Originally posted by tmv8888

^ i think you are seriously the biggest internet asshole I've ever come across... i sent you a very friendly PM. I was just answering your rude "bitch at me for it" comment.

"911 Dispatch what is your emergency?"

"I NEED A WAAAAAAH-MBULANCE!"

T: Technically the ride was far from perfect, but you did a decent job for this being a hand-built track. G's were in check and tunnel test passed.

A: Pacing was good, nice woodie airtime, nice lats. It was cool how it weaved through the terrain and trees.

O: The layout was different, and nice terrain

We can also see another one of his long, intelligent, well-explained rates; this one on Triumph by koeneman. An out and back GCI. I don't see what the problem is. He is an excellent rater. (Sarcasm)

Based on all of the B&Ms ive been on I'd say the hypers reach like -0.8 max, but only in front or back for an instant

[hyyyper]

Originally posted by Vid_w

^^Well, than it wouldn't be B&M anymore...
It's quite simple, really...
If you say it's a B&M it should be a B&M, not a "coaster-that-looks-like-B&M-but-really-isn't", with forces that exceed B&Ms limits.
If it's not B&M, it's not B&M

And since when was this rule put in? For all as I know, No Limits lets you create B&Ms with as much airtime as you want. It doesn't make in any less B&M.

Actually, considering your argument. Each coaster that isn't an exact replica of a real B&M should not be considered a B&M as they otherwise would be a "coaster-that-looks-like-B&M-but-really-isn't"

But why downrate my ride when clearly i was trying to model it after a real b&m? Real b&m's don't have much airtime, and so i made my ride that way. I just think people should rate in accordance to what the creator was trying to accomplish.